You need to watch your mouth and think before you make statements. So you think just because somebody likes to go muddin, they're automatically a "whitetrash redneck"? That's no worse than what any of the rest of us are doin to the enviroment when we "roll coal" so quit cryin and keep your snide remarks to yourself.

 

I don't think thats what he meant. I bet he was talking about people that just want to go in there an tear **** up, littler, and ect. not responsible wheelers. I guarantee irresponsible wheelers do more damage to the environment then our truck smoking.

 

it sounded like to me that he was referin to the ones that get out there drinking and throughing there bottles everywhere. the ones that go and find a place that is nice still and tear the **** out of it.

 

its the guys that go out into some farmers pasture ground, or the state owned set aside ground and tear it up, its white trash......i have spent my fair share of time hub deep in plenty of mud pits and in peoples fields but i asked for permission......unlike the people that are causing these trails to get closed down......its the stupid *** kids and their buddies that think cause they got a truck on 38 inch tires it entitles them to go tear every single piece of decent land up.......ive been the victim of it, ive had more than one person tear up my corn and soybean fields cause they thought it was "cool" to show off for their little skank of a girlfriend.......but i still go wheeling, i still spend my time cleaning up after people on the trail, supporting associations that support 4x4's, ive been to parks in several states, and ran more than my fair share of 4x4 clubs......ive build mud boggers, trail trucks, rock crawlers, pulling trucks and tug-o-war trucks and all it takes is those 2 or 3 guys to ruin it for everyone else.......so i do have a right to call them that.......

 

yes you do! and I agree whole heartdly with you. i myself have been wheelin trucks for over 26 years and it only take a few idiots to ruin it for the rest of us. hence the closures. although i think erosion is a BS excuse. all land erodes then cycles back part of the whole nature thing.

 

Correct especially in CA with there sandy/rocky soil 2" of rain and you can kiss you nice house up on a hillside good bye.