Diesels bad reputation depending on the driver?
in the days of old. before the smoke/soot. what would you do if some boddie was riding your *** on the highway.. stomp your brakes. make them panic and hit there breakes. and get off your ***.now days you dont hit your brakes. you fogg them and they really stay off your ***. street racers. the have been trying to stop that stuff sence i was a kid. they still race. and make movies about it.cant waite tell the moveis about the diesel trucks blowing smoke comes out. I hate to say it. but we can bitch and moan all we want. but it will not stop kids/20s in ther 30s or 40s or 50s strop blowing smoke. its the kid in us all. i have seen some of the guys on comp-d say the same stuff... but if you look on you tube.. there they are doing the same crap.. but now its not ok.. but last week it was ok for them to do it.. i wish you all luck on trying to get this stopped. but i think you all are barking up a big ole empty tree...
in the days of old. before the smoke/soot. what would you do if some boddie was riding your *** on the highway.. stomp your brakes. make them panic and hit there breakes. and get off your ***.now days you dont hit your brakes. you fogg them and they really stay off your ***. street racers. the have been trying to stop that stuff sence i was a kid. they still race. and make movies about it.cant waite tell the moveis about the diesel trucks blowing smoke comes out. I hate to say it. but we can bitch and moan all we want. but it will not stop kids/20s in ther 30s or 40s or 50s strop blowing smoke. its the kid in us all. i have seen some of the guys on comp-d say the same stuff... but if you look on you tube.. there they are doing the same crap.. but now its not ok.. but last week it was ok for them to do it.. i wish you all luck on trying to get this stopped. but i think you all are barking up a big ole empty tree...

Then why do people complain every time the USFS or BLM closes more recreational land?
Then why do people complain when gun control legislation comes around?
Shouldn't we all just "deal with it" then?
Hmmm?
We can take responsibility for our actions or take it in the wallet.....it's our choice and unfortunately it looks like that is what "we the people" really want after all.
Sad...so sad.
Last edited by Mr. Miyagi; Nov 16, 2009 at 11:27 PM.
ill take responsibility for my actions and you take responsibility for yours. To me this goes back to when the staff of other diesel sites wanted me to be involved in a summit to prevent people from acting like asshats at diesel events.
Im no one to you or anyone else , just because im a staff member here ..big deal , im not going to tell someone that what they are doing is wrong, they will learn on there own , they are not my kids or responsibillity.
As for action on this site they are not taken upon the members to fix there problems , problems are acted upon out of obligations i feel to the members who are not asshats.
I blow black smoke for my own personal enjoyment mostly when im on an empty highway just to see how much i can lay down. this is not showing off or pissing anyone off , im alone and just messing around , does this make me an uneducated irresponsible bomber? or does it make me a fan? I think its cool and if you were to start a poll im sure it would be majorly lop sided as to rather black smoke is cool or not
but ...chad they are going to outlaw it
Rather i blow smoke on SR13 or I70 its not going to do anything towards rather they ban it or not. There are already laws against it . No one gets hurt ! Black smoke saved my wife and son and both my nefews life .... a fellow bomber on here was following my wife from school where they picked up there kids.... my wife was turning left .... the guy was looking at his kids test papers then looked up and seen my wife turning but it was too late , he mashed it and my wife seen the black smoke in here passenger side mirror and stoped mid turn as he flew past ... he then turned around and came to my house and appoligized he had no where to go and didnt have time to stop , if jenny wouldnt of seen the smoke and stoped they would be dead.
So thats 4 lifes saved by black smoke , show me 1 news story where someone was killed by it.
Stoke them up and let the coal roll
Im no one to you or anyone else , just because im a staff member here ..big deal , im not going to tell someone that what they are doing is wrong, they will learn on there own , they are not my kids or responsibillity.
As for action on this site they are not taken upon the members to fix there problems , problems are acted upon out of obligations i feel to the members who are not asshats.
I blow black smoke for my own personal enjoyment mostly when im on an empty highway just to see how much i can lay down. this is not showing off or pissing anyone off , im alone and just messing around , does this make me an uneducated irresponsible bomber? or does it make me a fan? I think its cool and if you were to start a poll im sure it would be majorly lop sided as to rather black smoke is cool or not
but ...chad they are going to outlaw it
Rather i blow smoke on SR13 or I70 its not going to do anything towards rather they ban it or not. There are already laws against it . No one gets hurt ! Black smoke saved my wife and son and both my nefews life .... a fellow bomber on here was following my wife from school where they picked up there kids.... my wife was turning left .... the guy was looking at his kids test papers then looked up and seen my wife turning but it was too late , he mashed it and my wife seen the black smoke in here passenger side mirror and stoped mid turn as he flew past ... he then turned around and came to my house and appoligized he had no where to go and didnt have time to stop , if jenny wouldnt of seen the smoke and stoped they would be dead.
So thats 4 lifes saved by black smoke , show me 1 news story where someone was killed by it.
Stoke them up and let the coal roll
Dennis Wrote:
And if you had your pick which world would you live in now ? Give me the 50's anytime over this over regulated, minority following, divorce ridden, corrupt, over medicated, sex driven society we are living in today.
Dan Wrote:
I will try to steer newbies down the right path , like i have for years now , you dont bomb for smoke you bomb for power and smoke comes with it i have said it hundreds of time , but you have never seen me call someone an idiot for blowing black smoke... I guarantee it . So i feel bombers are not children and dont need someone preaching to them like a broken record ... dont blow black smoke it kills the unicorns. when i personally am one of Them guys.
its just how i feel about it your free to feel how ever you want as well , your not going to change my stance on it. If black smoke is avoidable then its best you not do it thats stating the obvious , you shouldnt smoke or drink either
No matter how hard I'm tryin to I just can't agree with this. I want to but I can't. The fact is that this is a different world then it was.
Dan Wrote:
You have contradicted your own beliefs here, DM
its just how i feel about it your free to feel how ever you want as well , your not going to change my stance on it. If black smoke is avoidable then its best you not do it thats stating the obvious , you shouldnt smoke or drink either
Last edited by DB Admin; Nov 17, 2009 at 05:37 AM.
if you want a tuck with power and NO BLACK SMOKE. Buy more nitrous and SPARY THE HELL OUT OF IT!!!. then you mite have a lil poof and 500hp

why do people complain. cuzz we can.
why do we complain about the EPA. cuzz we can.
dont we have that rite to complain?
do we still have the rites to do what we want?
we have the rite to fart in public.
people have the rite to drive the speed limit. or they have the rite to speed.. but we also have the rite to go to court and fight it when we get a ticket..
it dont matter what a diesel do or does they will bitch about the smoke, or bitch about the knocking it does in the parking lot setting and idleing,
i dont think it matters what we will do. they will complain about them.. even the fuel we burn. wasnt good enuff.. so they made bio, and soybean fuel, even tho we are recycling the used oils for them, ohhh its still not good enuff...
i think i get me a sticker that says.
yes it smoke black.. but i am burnen what cooked your food

why do people complain. cuzz we can.
why do we complain about the EPA. cuzz we can.
dont we have that rite to complain?
do we still have the rites to do what we want?
we have the rite to fart in public.
people have the rite to drive the speed limit. or they have the rite to speed.. but we also have the rite to go to court and fight it when we get a ticket..

it dont matter what a diesel do or does they will bitch about the smoke, or bitch about the knocking it does in the parking lot setting and idleing,
i dont think it matters what we will do. they will complain about them.. even the fuel we burn. wasnt good enuff.. so they made bio, and soybean fuel, even tho we are recycling the used oils for them, ohhh its still not good enuff...
i think i get me a sticker that says.
yes it smoke black.. but i am burnen what cooked your food
Last edited by oklahoma_6speed; Nov 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM.
I already thought about it. But it is so hard to get a refill for the bottles in Germany.
And it is illegal too
When I came to the US I also thought about freedom- wow, thats the country of freedom!
But with time I found out, that you aren't that free! You (Americans) have so many weird laws, rules and no-no's.
It is allowed to have a smoke blowing truck, but you aren't allowed to go faster than 65 or 70 miles per hour. You don't get alcohol on Sunday mornings at the gas station before 12 o'clock. Heck, what is that?
They take your bottle of beer away at a quarter to 2 in the morning in the bar.
You aren't allowed to have alcohol inside the passenger compartment?
Girls have to wear a top at the beach? Why? What kind of moral is this? America has the biggest **** industry in the world...
You are allowed to carry arms.Cool! And if a sign states you are not allowed to stay at that point of view to watch the dawn after 10pm you risk a fine if you do.
You have so many crazy rules. But important things or things that do not make sense are allowed. Like blowing smoke...
And it is illegal too

When I came to the US I also thought about freedom- wow, thats the country of freedom!
But with time I found out, that you aren't that free! You (Americans) have so many weird laws, rules and no-no's.
It is allowed to have a smoke blowing truck, but you aren't allowed to go faster than 65 or 70 miles per hour. You don't get alcohol on Sunday mornings at the gas station before 12 o'clock. Heck, what is that?
They take your bottle of beer away at a quarter to 2 in the morning in the bar.
You aren't allowed to have alcohol inside the passenger compartment?
Girls have to wear a top at the beach? Why? What kind of moral is this? America has the biggest **** industry in the world...
You are allowed to carry arms.Cool! And if a sign states you are not allowed to stay at that point of view to watch the dawn after 10pm you risk a fine if you do.
You have so many crazy rules. But important things or things that do not make sense are allowed. Like blowing smoke...
Last edited by Deezel Stink3r; Nov 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM.
I too think some of that is funny. The land of the free to the south of me has as you say many things that make you say hmmm.
In Canada we have some strange ones too but it far fewer when it comes to beer, late nights and even driving. Certain times of the year where I live the bars are open 24 hours. Last call for the rest of the year is 3AM for the most part and our speed limit max's out at 110 km/h but one could argue that in areas that is only a suggestion (albeit unwritten). Oh yeah and we are legal between 18 and 19 with some saying that this should be lowered still to help with the reduction of binge drinking. My parents are from EU so alcohol was never an issue in my house growing up. I had my first beer with my old man at the ripe old age of 6 and hated it by the way. Boy how things change.
In Canada we have some strange ones too but it far fewer when it comes to beer, late nights and even driving. Certain times of the year where I live the bars are open 24 hours. Last call for the rest of the year is 3AM for the most part and our speed limit max's out at 110 km/h but one could argue that in areas that is only a suggestion (albeit unwritten). Oh yeah and we are legal between 18 and 19 with some saying that this should be lowered still to help with the reduction of binge drinking. My parents are from EU so alcohol was never an issue in my house growing up. I had my first beer with my old man at the ripe old age of 6 and hated it by the way. Boy how things change.
ill take responsibility for my actions and you take responsibility for yours.
It's much more than just you and I taking responsibility.
Im no one to you or anyone else , just because im a staff member here ..big deal , im not going to tell someone that what they are doing is wrong, they will learn on there own , they are not my kids or responsibillity.
This is true; however, if enough crap hits the fan, or someone gets injured or killed, and the event coordinator/land owner gets sued bad enough, say bye bye to your event
I've see too many events shut down, just because a few idiots thought it would be cool to do donuts in the parking lot or play thier boom boxes louder than the free standing DJ booth!
As for action on this site they are not taken upon the members to fix there problems , problems are acted upon out of obligations i feel to the members who are not asshats.
Kinda the same same isn't it? The good of one vs. the good of all?
I blow black smoke for my own personal enjoyment mostly when im on an empty highway just to see how much i can lay down. this is not showing off or pissing anyone off , im alone and just messing around , does this make me an uneducated irresponsible bomber? or does it make me a fan? I think its cool and if you were to start a poll im sure it would be majorly lop sided as to rather black smoke is cool or not
You very well may be correct
IT's the same as me doing a huge smokin' burnout in my old vette. I just don't do it where I can catch hell, harm someone or am going to aggravate someone.
So I guess we're in agreement on that point
... Black smoke saved my wife and son and both my nefews life .... a fellow bomber on here was following my wife from school where they picked up there kids.... my wife was turning left .... the guy was looking at his kids test papers then looked up and seen my wife turning but it was too late , he mashed it and my wife seen the black smoke in here passenger side mirror and stoped mid turn as he flew past ... he then turned around and came to my house and appoligized he had no where to go and didnt have time to stop , if jenny wouldnt of seen the smoke and stoped they would be dead.
So thats 4 lifes saved by black smoke , show me 1 news story where someone was killed by it.
Stoke them up and let the coal roll
It's much more than just you and I taking responsibility.
Im no one to you or anyone else , just because im a staff member here ..big deal , im not going to tell someone that what they are doing is wrong, they will learn on there own , they are not my kids or responsibillity.
This is true; however, if enough crap hits the fan, or someone gets injured or killed, and the event coordinator/land owner gets sued bad enough, say bye bye to your event
I've see too many events shut down, just because a few idiots thought it would be cool to do donuts in the parking lot or play thier boom boxes louder than the free standing DJ booth!
As for action on this site they are not taken upon the members to fix there problems , problems are acted upon out of obligations i feel to the members who are not asshats.
Kinda the same same isn't it? The good of one vs. the good of all?
I blow black smoke for my own personal enjoyment mostly when im on an empty highway just to see how much i can lay down. this is not showing off or pissing anyone off , im alone and just messing around , does this make me an uneducated irresponsible bomber? or does it make me a fan? I think its cool and if you were to start a poll im sure it would be majorly lop sided as to rather black smoke is cool or not
You very well may be correct
IT's the same as me doing a huge smokin' burnout in my old vette. I just don't do it where I can catch hell, harm someone or am going to aggravate someone.So I guess we're in agreement on that point

... Black smoke saved my wife and son and both my nefews life .... a fellow bomber on here was following my wife from school where they picked up there kids.... my wife was turning left .... the guy was looking at his kids test papers then looked up and seen my wife turning but it was too late , he mashed it and my wife seen the black smoke in here passenger side mirror and stoped mid turn as he flew past ... he then turned around and came to my house and appoligized he had no where to go and didnt have time to stop , if jenny wouldnt of seen the smoke and stoped they would be dead.
So thats 4 lifes saved by black smoke , show me 1 news story where someone was killed by it.
Stoke them up and let the coal roll

So, wouldn't a loud assed air horn have worked betterl?
You can't "hear" smoke.
Had she not been somewhat attentive...well, we don't want to think about that and thank God that's not the case.

I'm a little confused as to how he was following her, she's turning left (away from him) and how he almost hit her?
Anyway, my point is, it was your wifes attentiveness, not necessarily the smoke, that save her and the kids (not to mention a little help from beyond
).And it was inattentive driving that almost killed them




