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Letter to EPA from ATS

Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEAKSUP
I will post this over here this was original posted on Comp D The letter was told not to be sent by Clint after is was Drafted someone stole it and placed t all ove the Diesel Forums please take your time to read it.

My name is Joel Richards.

There is no doubt that because of this post I will never have anything to do with ATS. If one of my representatives did something like this I would fire them, no matter if they were defending me or not this is not professional and only portrays a defensive tone to the whole situation. They are trying to play damage control and this was the wrong guy to try to help. Perhaps someone like the attorney who does damage control for a living should have responded rather then a 22 year old computer geek that thinks he has the world all figured out.

I guess everyone should buy from ATS because someone did not deny this? nah.....
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp

If you don't care what the EPA thinks spend some time in a place like California and look at the lack of diesels over there.
Not to bump this fiasco but FYI California sends the second highest amount of traffic to Diesel Bombers

So Far This Year ...

58,472 Texas
52,612 California
29,829 (not set)
24,500 Pennsylvania
24,451 New York
22,255 Florida
21,898 Ohio
19,309 North Carolina
18,836 Illinois
16,909 Washington
16,371 Virginia
13,747 Georgia
13,084 Michigan
12,935 Colorado
11,784 Indiana
11,781 Arizona
11,387 New Jersey
11,271 Wisconsin
11,200 Tennessee
11,174 Maryland
9,294 Idaho
9,287 Missouri
8,833 Iowa
8,663 Oregon
8,558 Oklahoma
8,003 Minnesota
7,177 Kentucky
6,648 Massachusetts
6,475 Utah
6,133 Montana
6,130 Wyoming
5,855 Arkansas
5,406 Kansas
5,283 South Carolina
5,170 Nevada
4,808 Louisiana
4,392 Alabama
4,021 Connecticut
3,450 Nebraska
2,933 New Mexico
2,600 Alaska
2,436 Mississippi
2,435 South Dakota
2,349 West Virginia
2,235 Hawaii
2,208 North Dakota
2,166 Maine
1,889 District of Columbia
1,687 New Hampshire
875 Rhode Island
868 Delaware
723 Vermont
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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man you guys are way nicer on this board
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselMinded
Not to bump this fiasco but FYI California sends the second highest amount of traffic to Diesel Bombers

So Far This Year ...

58,472 Texas
52,612 California
29,829 (not set)
24,500 Pennsylvania
24,451 New York
22,255 Florida
21,898 Ohio
19,309 North Carolina
18,836 Illinois
16,909 Washington
16,371 Virginia
13,747 Georgia
13,084 Michigan
12,935 Colorado
11,784 Indiana
11,781 Arizona
11,387 New Jersey
11,271 Wisconsin
11,200 Tennessee
11,174 Maryland
9,294 Idaho
9,287 Missouri
8,833 Iowa
8,663 Oregon
8,558 Oklahoma
8,003 Minnesota
7,177 Kentucky
6,648 Massachusetts
6,475 Utah
6,133 Montana
6,130 Wyoming
5,855 Arkansas
5,406 Kansas
5,283 South Carolina
5,170 Nevada
4,808 Louisiana
4,392 Alabama
4,021 Connecticut
3,450 Nebraska
2,933 New Mexico
2,600 Alaska
2,436 Mississippi
2,435 South Dakota
2,349 West Virginia
2,235 Hawaii
2,208 North Dakota
2,166 Maine
1,889 District of Columbia
1,687 New Hampshire
875 Rhode Island
868 Delaware
723 Vermont
That's because you don't show Dr. Evil and me on there! LOL...
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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this is only the usa report , i can get them for anywhere
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Alright guys yes it is in a defensive tone But you got to think People have been posting the original letter over all the forums. Can you not expect them to be a little pissed about whats going on. Doing Damage control on all the forums. This whole situation has been blown out of context. If the person hadn't even gotten into Clints files and stuff this lettr would have never seen the light of day. In my opinion PDI ATS H&S DeletedDPF all owe the person who took this file a *** whoopin But im sure Clint's NEW cause I would be getting a NEW lawyer will take care of that.

Then again already pointed out with a little bit of google you can bring up the companies that sell DPF Deletes.
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Does it really matter even if he was going to send out the letter, other than looking like he's blowing the EPA's . Like Chunk said you guys dont think the EPA already knows who sells these kits, here's a link to help you out Google

Its not like the "race only" loop hole is going to close just because this guy sent a letter
 
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bubba
Personally I didn't care nothin about any of this stuff until this latest letter. Don't mean nothin to me what these companies do to each other behind each others backs, for better or worse welcome to the business world. But this latest letter as I see it is an attack on us "Forum Rats". If this is how ATS views me then there are plenty of other companies out there that will at least pretend to value me.
Originally Posted by SPEAKSUP
Alright guys yes it is in a defensive tone But you got to think People have been posting the original letter over all the forums. Can you not expect them to be a little pissed about whats going on. Doing Damage control on all the forums. This whole situation has been blown out of context. If the person hadn't even gotten into Clints files and stuff this lettr would have never seen the light of day. In my opinion PDI ATS H&S DeletedDPF all owe the person who took this file a *** whoopin But im sure Clint's NEW cause I would be getting a NEW lawyer will take care of that.

Then again already pointed out with a little bit of google you can bring up the companies that sell DPF Deletes.
As I said before, I couldn't have cared less about that original letter. Meant nothin in my world. But mad or not when this last rep posted the letter that you copied here, that letter was a problem for me. I would suspect that by far the biggest bulk of this companies business is generated right here on the these sites and for him to come on those same sites and be derogatory towards their own customer base. Talk about pissin in your wheaties. Until it was verified that this guys head had rolled for his comments I wouldn't even think of handin any of my hard earned money over to a company that feels like this about it's customers.
 
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Joel Richards calls everyone stupid or an idiot, but Clint gives everyone his passwords, and doesn't change them after firing people? I guess the question now is, is Clint stupid or an Idiot? I can't ever read that response all the way thru. He keeps calling their customer base stupid or an Idiot. Where do they get these mental midgets? Do they not realize that we just dont like ATS, and this is that straw that broke the camels back?

can we move this to the bad boy section? I would like to throw some color into the conversation.
 

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