Letter to EPA from ATS
#31
The truth is out, IMO it still does not make ATS look good, even if it was a draft they still thought about it.
Last edited by TCU Fan; 12-16-2008 at 04:49 PM.
#33
Hello Everyone. This is Bryan @ ATS Diesel and Clint has prepared a statement and has asked me to post EXACTLY this on his behalf:
After reading the forums for the last several years, and being in the business for more than fifteen, I thought I had seen it all. However, the level of hate in this last series of forum posts is unbelievable.
At SEMA this year, my attorney Stewart Cables and I attended numerous seminars regarding the new CARB and EPA regulations for our industry. At SEMA, ATS (among others) spoke with the EPA about potential ways to relax the stringent guidelines the EPA enforces on the diesel community, and how we could lessen its impact through legislation. In the meantime, Stewart drafted a letter (the one you see on the forums) and sent it to me on my email. When he sent me the draft, I was totally surprised. I told him he was absolutely not allowed to send it to the EPA or anyone else for that matter. I did not think he would identify specific people or companies, and ATS has never been the type of company to participate in negative tactics like this. He agreed. The letter posted on the forums right now is the only draft in existence.
When I told him no, as his client, that was the end of that. But now, thanks to whoever posted this information, this information is completely public and everyone in the whole diesel community knows about it. Now, the EPA knows information I would never, ever allow to be posted on the internet. Thanks to this letter, to that secret person, the EPA has a very good idea of EVERYONE who has purchased a DPF delete kit, and they can see how many of these delete kits are out there on the road.
Before this hit the forums, Jared sent me a text saying “Thanks for the letter to the EPA.” I had no idea what he was talking about since Stewart’s letter was never released. At first, I thought he was joking. I asked, pleaded with him to forward me the email or send me the source so I could figure out what he was talking about. He refused. Why? Why would he refuse to let me know where he got the email, if I truly sent the letter? I know that a lot of you will call Jared to see if this is true, which is great. It seems that everyone knew about this letter before myself and ATS.
On this letter, that supposedly went to the EPA, where is my signature? Where is Stewart’s signature? Where is the ATS letterhead we use for every letter that goes out the door? Where is the envelope? How could someone say ATS sent a letter to the EPA without intercepting it in the mail?
The only two people in the world to have ever seen this letter, before December, were myself and my attorney. Yet here it is, all over the internet for everyone to see and rip on ATS as rats and liars. That’s bs. ATS is aggressively pursuing the individuals involved with illegally accessing my private and confidential emails. My name has been drug through the mud and I will not tolerate the public posting of my private attorney emails. ATS will find out who accessed its private files and we will pursue every legal option available when we do.
I have received evidence that an unauthorized source has accessed my personal e-mail. This is unfortunately not the first time that strictly confidential internal information from my e-mail was accessed and used in a negative way towards ATS, but for the first time I now have proof as to who gained access to the server. I am very upset about this and concerned for all in the industry including ATS, as we all are in this niche industry together.
Please see ATS’ formal stance here: http://www.atsdiesel.com/ats_new/resp/response.asp
After reading the forums for the last several years, and being in the business for more than fifteen, I thought I had seen it all. However, the level of hate in this last series of forum posts is unbelievable.
At SEMA this year, my attorney Stewart Cables and I attended numerous seminars regarding the new CARB and EPA regulations for our industry. At SEMA, ATS (among others) spoke with the EPA about potential ways to relax the stringent guidelines the EPA enforces on the diesel community, and how we could lessen its impact through legislation. In the meantime, Stewart drafted a letter (the one you see on the forums) and sent it to me on my email. When he sent me the draft, I was totally surprised. I told him he was absolutely not allowed to send it to the EPA or anyone else for that matter. I did not think he would identify specific people or companies, and ATS has never been the type of company to participate in negative tactics like this. He agreed. The letter posted on the forums right now is the only draft in existence.
When I told him no, as his client, that was the end of that. But now, thanks to whoever posted this information, this information is completely public and everyone in the whole diesel community knows about it. Now, the EPA knows information I would never, ever allow to be posted on the internet. Thanks to this letter, to that secret person, the EPA has a very good idea of EVERYONE who has purchased a DPF delete kit, and they can see how many of these delete kits are out there on the road.
Before this hit the forums, Jared sent me a text saying “Thanks for the letter to the EPA.” I had no idea what he was talking about since Stewart’s letter was never released. At first, I thought he was joking. I asked, pleaded with him to forward me the email or send me the source so I could figure out what he was talking about. He refused. Why? Why would he refuse to let me know where he got the email, if I truly sent the letter? I know that a lot of you will call Jared to see if this is true, which is great. It seems that everyone knew about this letter before myself and ATS.
On this letter, that supposedly went to the EPA, where is my signature? Where is Stewart’s signature? Where is the ATS letterhead we use for every letter that goes out the door? Where is the envelope? How could someone say ATS sent a letter to the EPA without intercepting it in the mail?
The only two people in the world to have ever seen this letter, before December, were myself and my attorney. Yet here it is, all over the internet for everyone to see and rip on ATS as rats and liars. That’s bs. ATS is aggressively pursuing the individuals involved with illegally accessing my private and confidential emails. My name has been drug through the mud and I will not tolerate the public posting of my private attorney emails. ATS will find out who accessed its private files and we will pursue every legal option available when we do.
I have received evidence that an unauthorized source has accessed my personal e-mail. This is unfortunately not the first time that strictly confidential internal information from my e-mail was accessed and used in a negative way towards ATS, but for the first time I now have proof as to who gained access to the server. I am very upset about this and concerned for all in the industry including ATS, as we all are in this niche industry together.
Please see ATS’ formal stance here: http://www.atsdiesel.com/ats_new/resp/response.asp
He should have had his personal attorney read his statement as he contradicts himself.
#34
Not to speak for DM but I think he meant that there must have been an explination to the origin of the letter and that it would be highly unlikely for ATS to have actually sent something like that.
#35
True ATS, never admits to sending the letter... he does admit to it being drafted by him and his attorney ... and someone obtained it from his email.
Regardless, it is my opinion that they or atleast the attorney who drafted the letter were conspiring to eliminate their competition in whatever underhanded strategy necessary.
Regardless, it is my opinion that they or atleast the attorney who drafted the letter were conspiring to eliminate their competition in whatever underhanded strategy necessary.
#36
Same goes for Banks products Good or bad there all a big part of the diesel community and are doing what they thinks best to advance our niche in a forward manner .
None of these companies want to run diesels in the ground or they will be cutting there own throats
#37
Why draft a letter to the EPA in the first place, particularly with the names of there competitors in it, shitty if you ask me.
#38
I have talked to Eric and a couple of the other guys. It was his Attorney that drafted the letter. Clint Disproved of it i might have not even been sent. Everyone needs to calm down. ATS has been good people in sponsoring Many Events Forums ETC. Please you all have sen Clint Duramax that thing smokes like a traiin.
This is not good for sonsors on both sides. So I think we should all keep it civil with this thread. I have no problem with ATS and sure plenty of other people on here use their parts. Turbos and Warranties are first class.
Everything will be worked out im sure we just need to take a ste back and chill out.
This is not good for sonsors on both sides. So I think we should all keep it civil with this thread. I have no problem with ATS and sure plenty of other people on here use their parts. Turbos and Warranties are first class.
Everything will be worked out im sure we just need to take a ste back and chill out.
#39
As the owner of ATS Diesel Performance, I have been scrutinizing the current situation regarding the EPA letter. I have withheld any reaction to this situation until I could go over all the facts, make extensive internal investigations, and then make an informed decision based on facts, not emotion.
Over the past 15 years, ATS has endured countless attacks aimed to discredit our reputation as a company and also me personally. I am saddened to say that this appears to be another one of those situations. I will not discuss who was ultimately responsible for this letters procurement and dissemination. Let me say that this kind of "scare mongering" can help no one and ultimately, not only damage the reputations of the parties concerned, but also the entire industry as a whole.
ATS' main focus, since our inception, has been one of promoting the diesel industry, first and foremost. ATS and its entire staff have focused their collective efforts into elevating the diesel industry by supporting events, providing tech support, sponsoring drivers and owners and helping innovative thinkers in the diesel community with support that combine both products and funding. Each employee at ATS Diesel shares the same commitment that I have to the industry, one of increased development and furthering the diesel industry.
The advent of more, far reaching restrictions from the EPA are something that we, as a whole, will have to learn to work within while still keeping the vehicles we love performing at levels that not only meet EPA's regulations, but also have the same great performance afforded us all by product developers and resellers like ATS Diesel. The unfortunate posting of a letter like this can do no good for any of the parties mentioned or the diesel community as a whole.
For you, our customers, and those in the diesel community, ATS will continue to provide, support, engineer, test and develop products for the diesel industry; working with you to bring to market the products and performance you demand with the quality you deserve.
Sincerely
Clint Cannon
President
ATS Diesel Performance Inc.
Over the past 15 years, ATS has endured countless attacks aimed to discredit our reputation as a company and also me personally. I am saddened to say that this appears to be another one of those situations. I will not discuss who was ultimately responsible for this letters procurement and dissemination. Let me say that this kind of "scare mongering" can help no one and ultimately, not only damage the reputations of the parties concerned, but also the entire industry as a whole.
ATS' main focus, since our inception, has been one of promoting the diesel industry, first and foremost. ATS and its entire staff have focused their collective efforts into elevating the diesel industry by supporting events, providing tech support, sponsoring drivers and owners and helping innovative thinkers in the diesel community with support that combine both products and funding. Each employee at ATS Diesel shares the same commitment that I have to the industry, one of increased development and furthering the diesel industry.
The advent of more, far reaching restrictions from the EPA are something that we, as a whole, will have to learn to work within while still keeping the vehicles we love performing at levels that not only meet EPA's regulations, but also have the same great performance afforded us all by product developers and resellers like ATS Diesel. The unfortunate posting of a letter like this can do no good for any of the parties mentioned or the diesel community as a whole.
For you, our customers, and those in the diesel community, ATS will continue to provide, support, engineer, test and develop products for the diesel industry; working with you to bring to market the products and performance you demand with the quality you deserve.
Sincerely
Clint Cannon
President
ATS Diesel Performance Inc.
#40
No offense to any lawyers that may be members here, but you all haven't met many of them. They are ruthless and don't care who they hurt. The letter sounds like a lawyer letter. Obviously it wasn't approved and someone did something bad to put it in the public eye. All it looks like ATS is guilty of is bad procedures on communications or hiring a bad lawyer. You guys are tough.
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