PHP's 2001 F-250 Build. Finally!
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The 400 HP number IS NOT on stock injectors and IS NOT possible with stock injectors.
The picture Bill posted (post #5) IS a picture of powdered metal rods in that engine.
The picture Bill posted (post #5) IS a picture of powdered metal rods in that engine.
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I have a towing related question. Once everything is said and done. How well will the truck tow? ie. 15,000 lbs up a 10% grade for 5 miles? Or would this just crank up the egt's so high that you would have to pull over and let it cool down? The reason I ask this is, currently I have an e99 7.3 powerstroke with 139,000 miles. And eventually I would like to build it up a little bit. But if I do do this, I still want to be able to use my truck as a truck. Not just a racecar.
Thanks,
Geoff
Thanks,
Geoff
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There is no need to change anything except pistons if your cylinders are worn enough to warrant a .030" overbore. There is no performance gain from "punching out" cylinders. On an eight cylinder engine you will gain 6 cubic inches with a .030" overbore, but no performance.
Overboring an engine serves no purpose but to clean up cylinder wall wear and taper problems.
Overboring an engine serves no purpose but to clean up cylinder wall wear and taper problems.
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thanks for the info, in trying to build a motor stoker like a 383 stoker out of a 7.3 so it will be a stroked stoker 
any ideas
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there is a guy that builds 7.3 that crank 700 hp with just a turbo no programming but i got a price for 17,000 for motor and tranny, i want to do it myself and build a power plant for my truck, please help with any teck and ideas if all this is possible, i want to keep it a road worthy rig
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another teck question i flashed my computer and put new program, can i use a tony wildman tuner on top of that or the 3 way switch i have already, i guess its called stacking programs but wow it def, moves the truck ?
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there is a guy that builds 7.3 that crank 700 hp with just a turbo no programming but i got a price for 17,000 for motor and tranny, i want to do it myself and build a power plant for my truck, please help with any teck and ideas if all this is possible, i want to keep it a road worthy rig
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another teck question i flashed my computer and put new program, can i use a tony wildman tuner on top of that or the 3 way switch i have already, i guess its called stacking programs but wow it def, moves the truck ?
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thanks for the info, in trying to build a motor stoker like a 383 stoker out of a 7.3 so it will be a stroked stoker any ideas
Get ready to drop serious coin on a custom crankshaft. You're not going to make any appreciable power increases with the minimal amount of overboring you can get away with, so adding a bit of stroke is all you can do. THEN you get to have custom pistons built to accommodate the longer stroke (less compression height).
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there is a guy that builds 7.3 that crank 700 hp with just a turbo no programming but i got a price for 17,000 for motor and tranny, i want to do it myself and build a power plant for my truck, please help with any teck and ideas if all this is possible, i want to keep it a road worthy rig I would LOVE to talk to this guy and figure out how that's possible.
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another teck question i flashed my computer and put new program, can i use a tony wildman tuner on top of that or the 3 way switch i have already, i guess its called stacking programs but wow it def, moves the truck ? No. There is only room for one chip on the back of the PCM. You cannot put two chips on the computer nor can you combine a programmer with a chip, the chip will override the programmer's calibration.
any ideasGet ready to drop serious coin on a custom crankshaft. You're not going to make any appreciable power increases with the minimal amount of overboring you can get away with, so adding a bit of stroke is all you can do. THEN you get to have custom pistons built to accommodate the longer stroke (less compression height).
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there is a guy that builds 7.3 that crank 700 hp with just a turbo no programming but i got a price for 17,000 for motor and tranny, i want to do it myself and build a power plant for my truck, please help with any teck and ideas if all this is possible, i want to keep it a road worthy rig I would LOVE to talk to this guy and figure out how that's possible.
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another teck question i flashed my computer and put new program, can i use a tony wildman tuner on top of that or the 3 way switch i have already, i guess its called stacking programs but wow it def, moves the truck ? No. There is only room for one chip on the back of the PCM. You cannot put two chips on the computer nor can you combine a programmer with a chip, the chip will override the programmer's calibration.
Probably shouldn't muck up Bill's thread with this stuff anymore.
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From: Jaw-Juh
I have a towing related question. Once everything is said and done. How well will the truck tow? ie. 15,000 lbs up a 10% grade for 5 miles? Or would this just crank up the egt's so high that you would have to pull over and let it cool down? The reason I ask this is, currently I have an e99 7.3 powerstroke with 139,000 miles. And eventually I would like to build it up a little bit. But if I do do this, I still want to be able to use my truck as a truck. Not just a racecar.
Thanks,
Geoff
Thanks,
Geoff
I don't use my truck as a racecar, other then maybe stoplight to stoplight. It is a daily driver and daily worker, just like 99.9% of the people out in the real world. I leave the racing stuff to guys like Mike Ontiveros.
I'm looking for inexpensive, reliable STREET power.Take care.
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there is a guy that builds 7.3 that crank 700 hp with just a turbo no programming but i got a price for 17,000 for motor and tranny, i want to do it myself and build a power plant for my truck, please help with any teck and ideas if all this is possible, i want to keep it a road worthy rig
In order to achieve 700 HP, you'd need AT LEAST:
350-400cc injectors - $2800
Big single or (more likely) compound turbos - $2500 - $3500
Hypermax (or similar) connecting rods - $2600
Custom ground cam - $800
Head Studs - $500
Fire Rings - (Machine Shop labor)
Main girdle - $2000
Twin HPOP - $2600
Fuel System - $600
Dyno Tuning to make everything run correctly $1000
With no other machining or installation charges, that comes to around $16,400. By the time you add all the gaskets, bearings, and other incidentals, you'll probably be close to $18,000.
Anything less will probably leave you with parts scattered all over the street. Well, maybe your tranny wouldn't survive the build... but that's another story.
We're pushing it trying to achieve 600 HP (really pushing since ours is a PMR engine), but it's more out of morbid curiosity that we've selected the parameters for our build. For 600 HP I'd normally recommend a minimum of forged rods, even if they're just factory.
Take care.
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i am in this project and it is great to have u guys help, i have been taken by a tranny company already went threw 4 of them just getting ready to send the last back, this one blew reverse, tired of taken them in and out
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and haven u guys here will save me alot of heart ache, should i just get rid of everything and go with tony wild man 6 position and be done with it and some injectors and a larger turbo, this weeks project is changing out ring and pinion for more gear , going to 4.56
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and haven u guys here will save me alot of heart ache, should i just get rid of everything and go with tony wild man 6 position and be done with it and some injectors and a larger turbo, this weeks project is changing out ring and pinion for more gear , going to 4.56
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