I've only seen a handful of posts from whargoul, they typically contain some sort of negativity, some sort of exclamation of how something won't work, and always lack any sort of detailed info or any factual information on his diagnosis. So, here's to hoping he will prove me wrong by providing some factual based information on his claims.

 

Hey man,
Not a fan of Whargoul and had a bit of a head butting a couple weeks ago, but I believe, for once, that what he is advising is fair advice. He's just saying to keep it from debris, but more importantly is road spray. That pump's not waterproof and will corrode and be damaged fairly easily. If anything...keep the location, just put up a shield of some sort.

 

Yeah, I've made a few changes to the system.

I installed the system mainly to keep the engine clean because I am running B100 Biodiesel full time. I run it in both of my trucks. In the 6.0 for over a year now and in the 7.3 for three years. This is by far, bar none the best fuel. Both trucks run smooth as butter with a properly lubricated fuel system that stays clean.

So when I ran the boost juice 50/50 water/meth when getting on it, it hesitated. I looked in the rear view and had memories of the egr failure I had a couple years ago (which ended up being and blessing and got me into learning about diesels). There was a large puff of white smoke coming out of the tail pipe. The reason was because the nozzle was to large (5 gph), the 3/8 hose and I did not have a check valve at the nozzle. I switched to a 1/4 hose, installed a check valve from AIS and got a .6 gph nozzle from McMaster carr. All good now! I run it full time on the freeway.

Here are some things to do when doing a DIY injection.
1. Test it with 50/50 water/meth to make sure there is not too much fluid going into the intake. Too much fluid is like when the egr blows because of the egr cooler being clogged and hosing the turbo, possible head gaskets if you don't shut it down right away or its really hot. Start with a small nozzle and work your way up if you are looking for power.
2. Install a check valve at the nozzle. A few drips are okay once the system shuts off but you don't want lots
3. Install a 1/4 hose from the pump to the intake. There are less drips with the smaller diameter hose. A 3/8 hose from the reservoir to the pump is good.
4. Wire it without the relay. It kept blowing. I ran power from the battery to the main switch in the cab to the pressure switch (3 psi) to the pump. With a 20 amp fuse at the battery.

Its a street truck so I'm not to worried about the pump. If it seems to be getting to much weather or whatever I'll put a cover around it.

AIS (alcohol injection systems) has a kit if you don't want to do the DIY. Its $299. Here's the link.
The Best Water injection system and water methanol injection systems at AlcoholInjectionSystems.com

 

Kgbriptyde: Hey man, just a word of caution on the AIS systems. These guys have ZERO diesel experience. They've truly never tuned a diesel motor on their own. Nothing but scary stuff happening when it's not engineered for your application.

I can tell you that the extra money for a Snow Performance system Snow Performance : Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection Systems. The Best Most Accurate Gas and Diesel Water Methanol Injection Strategies for Fuel Injected Carbureted Turbocharged Supercharged is money well spent. We have sophisticated 2d referenced systems monitoring boost and Egt's constantly. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. Plus, you've got a system that's been proven for years and years throughout the diesel community...not a gasoline system being marketed to Diesel guys.

 

Snow Performance stickin it to the competition:-)

 

Here's a video talking about the difference in the TowMax and MPGMAX Systems:
Snow Performance : Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection Systems. The Best Most Accurate Gas and Diesel Water Methanol Injection Strategies for Fuel Injected Carbureted Turbocharged Supercharged

 

If you want the best water injection systems give the guys at Cooling Mist a call.

Better pumps, better injectors and better controlers.

There is a reason why Swamps Diesel uses Cooling Mist...

 

I assure you the guys at CoolingMist are not diesel guys and haven't tuned anywhere the number of trucks as we have. There's a reason Diesel Performance Parts, Alligator, Thoroughbred Diesel, Sinister Diesel, Strictly Diesel, Parley's Diesel use Snow Performance...there's a reason that the majority of the trucks at Diesel Power Challenge have always used Snow Performance or nothing at all. There is not a more advanced control strategy available.

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CSISPD:
We do have 300 psi pumps. That's the highest pressure pumps available sir.
Our nozzles create a spinning action that spins that fluid supersonically to create the smallest droplets at the highest pressure. That is how we continue to put down the power and cooling that we do, consistently.

 

Here's a really nice testimonial from Bruce Stafford with a new LML with prototype compound turbo setup:
"Big Thanks to Snow Performance. Friday night i tested what a Snow Performance Max-Mpg kit can do for a Duramax. I was at Pueblo Motorsports drag strip, and these were back to back runs ! (2011 GMC 2500hd 6.6L LML Duramax, 8" lift, 37" tires)

1/4 mile time with Max-Mpg turned off.
14.8@ 94mph

1/4 mile time with Max-Mpg turned on in tow mode, 65% injection gain.
14.056 @ 102.45

I have to tell you, everything Snow Performance claims about their kits is 100% truthfull!!

I highly recommend their kits to anyone looking for a safe gain in horsepower, and faster times.

Thanks again Snow Performance for leading the way!"

 

So with a vehicle weight of 7500lbs we will say... (I'm using this number as an arbitrary number since we don't know the cab/bed configuration. D-max's are typically lighter, but I figure with 8" lift and big tires it's probably close enough)

His first run without the mpg max system on was ~422rwhp
His run with it went up to ~ 547rwhp?

He gained 125 rwhp from a mileage oriented injection kit? I'm not doubting your kits don't work, but I don't think they work that good...

His 60's were probably terrible too, judging from the 8" lift and 37" tires, because if you go off of ET instead of trap speed...

His first run based on ET is ~ 379 rwhp
His second run with the system on is ~ 442rwhp

So if we go off of trap speed alone, he gained about 30% power just using this?

If we go off of ET he gained about 17%...

These numbers don't add up for me. I think it's fair to say these runs were not very consistent. His time went up considerably, but his trap speed not as much. Meaning his second run he probably had a way better launch... I'd really like to see the slips from each run. I bet the 60's are way different.

Interesting none the less.