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Huge gains from FICM ONLY tune!

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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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Just so happens to be how I spell my name so I don't have to worrie about getting it wrong...
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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Just so happens to be how I spell my name so I don't have to worrie about getting it wrong...
See? Someone else who spells it the right way!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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i wana see if i gain any MPG's, but i cant keep my foot out of it
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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I have a few questions about this before I consider

I've always wanted to get an sct tune but I'm scared to death to pop a HG does a ficm tune pose any problems that would cause a HG failure? Or assist in one i should say.

I have almost 100k miles on stock sticks will a ficm tune cause my injectors to go out sooner than expected or should I wait till they start going out replace them with bigger ones and then get my ficm tuned

I have a feeling my ficm is going bad I'm getting 10 mpg and it has zero power when cold. Sat I'm gonna check it and resolder if needed. Will you stil tune a ficm thats been resoldered?

How do these tunes affect the mpg or a better question what's the best tune for max performance without sacrificing mpg on a DD

most importantly i guess i should of asked this first haha is this preformed on the actual ficm or via a tuner?

Lastly what steps need to take place to get this done on top of that what's the turn around

Thank you and sorry for the 100 questions
 
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Powerstroke
i wana see if i gain any MPG's, but i cant keep my foot out of it
Funny, I have the same damn problem.

Originally Posted by brondondolon
I have a few questions about this before I consider

I've always wanted to get an sct tune but I'm scared to death to pop a HG does a ficm tune pose any problems that would cause a HG failure? Or assist in one i should say.

I have almost 100k miles on stock sticks will a ficm tune cause my injectors to go out sooner than expected or should I wait till they start going out replace them with bigger ones and then get my ficm tuned

I have a feeling my ficm is going bad I'm getting 10 mpg and it has zero power when cold. Sat I'm gonna check it and resolder if needed. Will you stil tune a ficm thats been resoldered?

How do these tunes affect the mpg or a better question what's the best tune for max performance without sacrificing mpg on a DD

most importantly i guess i should of asked this first haha is this preformed on the actual ficm or via a tuner?

Lastly what steps need to take place to get this done on top of that what's the turn around

Thank you and sorry for the 100 questions
Unfortunately, the reality is that any time you have an increase in performance on a 6.0L, you run the risk of losing a head gasket. The more aggressive the tuning, the higher risk of failure. So the question is whether or not you'd be happy with a mild FICM tune. I will say that based on the nature of the tuning, FICM tuning would ideally be less stressful on driveline components because of the lack of increase in ICP and SOI, but only Cylinder Pressure testing will show for sure whether this is true or not. I don't have that data right now, so I can't give you a clear, definitive answer on that at the moment, but we will be testing that here in the next few weeks.

A FICM tune will not accelerate any wear or shorten the life of injectors. It just opens and closes them at different points. ICP, on the other hand, WILL have an effect on the service life of the injector.

If the FICM is questionable, I'd wait until it is either properly repaired or replaced before programming. If you spend the money on a FICM program and then find out that it's not repairable, you're not going to be happy.

Historically, the higher the power level, the better fuel economy we'd see, and based on customer response, MPG does appear to be improved. However, that is mostly anecdotal and we are going to be conducting our own mileage tests so that we can provide documented economy figures.

We can either send you a programmer type device, or you can send the FICM to us. It's up to you. There is a $250.00 deposit on the programmer which is refundable when the device is returned undamaged. You may also purchase the programmer outright.

The order form is located here:
https://fs21.formsite.com/Power_Hung...ure_index.html

Look at that... only took 8 questions. You've got 92 to go.

I hope this is helpful.
 

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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Power Hungry
Rollbacks are designed to put your PCM back to an earlier strategy which doesn't use the Inferred EBP calculations. In nearly every application, this dramatically improves throttle response and low-mid RPM drivability, along with some improvements in fuel economy. Being that you are VXAP2xx, you are running the later Inferred EBP strategy. Reflashing to an earlier VXAM7xx strategy will offer a considerable improvement.
How would I find out what flash I have? Would it be in an Oasis Report? Or would I get it from a dealership?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ntmdtr3fan
How would I find out what flash I have? Would it be in an Oasis Report? Or would I get it from a dealership?
You would need a scan tool like Ford's IDS, Snap-on, Autoenginuity or similar that has the capability to read the PCM hex code strategy.

Even some of the programmers/tuners can read the PCM hex code strategy.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 02:47 AM
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Here is another group of plots I found interesting. These are comparisons of a stock ECM and FICM, a standard 100R racing tune with a Stock FICM, a Stock ECM and the Hercules FICM tune, and finally the 100R ECM and Hercules FICM tune combined. It's pretty interesting to see where the individual gains are and also goes to show that there are limiters in the ECM that need to be addressed in order to maintain High RPM power output as well as SOI adjustments to help improve low RPM performance. These show that the FICM tuning and ECM tuning go hand in hand to provide on overall performance gain.



The first image is just a comparison between the 100R ECM and the Hercules FICM tune. The Hercules actually has a little higher peak output, especially in torque at about 2200 RPM and HP at 3000 RPM, but suffers a little in the 1800 to 2000 RPM range and a drops off at 3300 due to the fuel limitations in the Stock ECM calibration.

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The next image is a comparison between the 100R ECM and the Hercules FICM tune, with a Stock ECM and FICM for reference.

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The final image is a comparison between the 100R ECM and the Hercules FICM tune, both individually and combined, with Stock ECM and FICM for reference. I had to change the HP scale from 500 HP to 1000 HP to help separate the graphs. They were getting really cluttered and hard to follow the curves. As you can easily tell, each type of programming has its benefits in certain areas, but the combination of both tunes makes a tremendous difference over each tune individually. The compounded benefits, while not wholly additive (ie. 100 HP + 100 HP does NOT make 200 HP), still have significant relevance in their relation and shows that the FICM programming combined with even an aggressive performance tune will provide noticeable improvements, especially in the 1800 to 2800 RPM range.

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I hope these graphs are helpful.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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16.96 mpg my last tank!!!! BEST IVE EVER GOT.

it was 60% highway at 78mph, 1 hour of idle, 3-5 WOTS, and driving around town..

VERY VERY HAPPY
 
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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Wow, that's impressive!
 
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