Turbo hose blows off
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If it does it again, tighten down the nut until the spring just bottoms out, then tighten it down a little more. Then put the jamb nut on it and tighten the 2 nuts against each other using 2 wrenches. If you just try to tighten the top nut, both of them will turn and they won't hold; they will both back off together due to vibration.
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is the CAC tube the metal one going to the intercooler? if so, its blown off with 2 diffrent banks ones and the stock one. Ford has looked at it several times, I'm sure they would have seen a code. When I had the pda on I think the only code I ever saw was low/no turbo pressure(after the hose blew off). If it did make an insane amount of boost, it was fast enough for it not to be recorded by the tuner. I think the highest I saw when the entire banks system was on there was 34 psi, that was when I wasent towing, but racing it. I have a feeling that this is going no where, its extremly hard to diagnose a problem without getting your hands on the truck. If I ever do find out what the problem is I'll let you know. Its only been 5 years. I'll have to take a look at the sct tuner instalation, but the price might be with custom tunning too, not sure. Did you have a chance to look at their web site? Orange County Performance - Corvettes Mustangs and Hot Rods
34psi is not enough to blow hoses. If you were running compounds and pushing 60psi maybe...
I would thing towing would actually cause a higher boost situation than racing... racing an empty truck doesn't really put a large load on it.
Unfortunately I don't think there is much else we can do from here, you're right. My only other suggestion is finding someone with another 6.0 and swapping the CAC tube and hose and see if it changes. You said you've swapped the stock CAC tube off for the banks, but have you tried another Ford CAC tube? If you were closer I'd swap with you today just to see what the heck is up. I do have a spare CAC tube I'd be willing to ship to you to try out.
Could you maybe take the CAC tube off and get a pair of vernier calipers and measure the OD of the tube where the boot connects? Maybe it's egg shaped, or too small or something. We could compare it to one of ours. I know we're stretching here, but we're willing to help any way we can from behind a monitor.
You said it still does this even when returned to stock right? As in stock tuning...?
Because OEM and Banks use the same type spring loaded bolt, I have to wonder if it's not a fastener issue. What if there were a crack in the turbine section (or VGT malfuntion) allowing the turbo to make a ridiculous amount of boost? I am guessing at this point, BTW.
Has there been any OBD scan done? What codes are popping? I didn't see that in the thread.
That CAC brace does look kind of hokey. I wouldn't call that the hot side of the turbo, the hot side is the exhaust/turbine section.
At any rate, because 2 different inter-coolers are doing the same thing, it's time to quit looking there, quit looking at band clamps that have been chnaged over and over, and look to something else. Codes, turbo, turbo mounting, something.
Has there been any OBD scan done? What codes are popping? I didn't see that in the thread.
That CAC brace does look kind of hokey. I wouldn't call that the hot side of the turbo, the hot side is the exhaust/turbine section.
At any rate, because 2 different inter-coolers are doing the same thing, it's time to quit looking there, quit looking at band clamps that have been chnaged over and over, and look to something else. Codes, turbo, turbo mounting, something.
I hate to rule out the clamp/boots etc, but if he's changed them so many times it's hard to argue that it's not those... maybe we do need to think outside the box on this one.
If it does it again, tighten down the nut until the spring just bottoms out, then tighten it down a little more. Then put the jamb nut on it and tighten the 2 nuts against each other using 2 wrenches. If you just try to tighten the top nut, both of them will turn and they won't hold; they will both back off together due to vibration.
LargeMarge, have you tried the hair spray on the boots? Makes them STICK real good. These are Ford boots you're using right?
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If that crack were in the compressor section, yes, little to no boost. I KNOW an exhaust leak before the turbo kills the boost, but what about an exhaust leak IN the turbo?
What if that crack were in the turbine (hot) section, which is isolated from the compressor (cold) section. Couldn't a leak in the turbine housing "ease" the pressure on the turbine, allowing it to spin faster, thus making more boost, or at least spiking the boost so rapidly it blows the boot off? It would certainly explain the hideous exhaust leak after 3 down tubes were installed.
If there is soot on the cast iron part of the housing, that would indicate a leak. It doesn't cost anything to look...
I'm all for abstract solutions for this, none of the usual fixes seem to apply.
What if that crack were in the turbine (hot) section, which is isolated from the compressor (cold) section. Couldn't a leak in the turbine housing "ease" the pressure on the turbine, allowing it to spin faster, thus making more boost, or at least spiking the boost so rapidly it blows the boot off? It would certainly explain the hideous exhaust leak after 3 down tubes were installed.
If there is soot on the cast iron part of the housing, that would indicate a leak. It doesn't cost anything to look...
I'm all for abstract solutions for this, none of the usual fixes seem to apply.
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I see what you're saying now, but no it would not make more boost, you'd lose a lot of heat which is what essentially drives the turbo. You'd have major failure is my guess, but I seriously doubt it would create more boost. If it would, guys would be figuring out a way to make it work...
You're right, I'm not sure where else to look, this is such a simple thing that it's blowing my mind.
You're right, I'm not sure where else to look, this is such a simple thing that it's blowing my mind.
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One person I spoke to suggested maybe I have a clog in the inter cooler or the computer is registering a lower boost then whats really there so it allows it to boost higher.
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Clogged catalytic converter?
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Clogged catalytic converter?
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I followed this thought process when my boots were popping off.
I reasoned that maybe I forgot a rag in the intercooler tube input or output.
Have you ever used the black aftermarket boots that disintegrated for more than a few people? This would clog the intercooler input side.
This might explain higher boost causing the tube to pop off.
I never considered the possibility that it was something as simple as the nuts backing off, but that was exactly what it was for me. My personal belief is that the spring tension in the clamps is too low to hold to tubes on and that's why I suggested to tighten it a little after bottoming out the springs. I've had mine 'double nutted' without bottoming out the springs and they still popped off.
I reasoned that maybe I forgot a rag in the intercooler tube input or output.
Have you ever used the black aftermarket boots that disintegrated for more than a few people? This would clog the intercooler input side.
This might explain higher boost causing the tube to pop off.
I never considered the possibility that it was something as simple as the nuts backing off, but that was exactly what it was for me. My personal belief is that the spring tension in the clamps is too low to hold to tubes on and that's why I suggested to tighten it a little after bottoming out the springs. I've had mine 'double nutted' without bottoming out the springs and they still popped off.
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