Coolant filters and fuel fitlers
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Ok good info guys thanks. how much $$ would it cost to have the head studs done right? what does the airdog 2 run for $? also when you say big tunes is that like anything over the tow setting on your tuner? dont really know alot about the sct or any other tune for that matter. are there 3 settings on them or how does that work? im lookin at the cheapest sct without the custom tunes for now.
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Having heads done right consists of having heads decked/pressure checked/magnafluxed, just gone right through at the machine shop, preferably by someone who has worked with 6.0 heads before. That cost will vary, depending on level or work done. If heads need more than .008" taken off, they're more or less scrap.
This will all depend if you do the work yourself of have to pay someone to do it.
ARP's around $400
gaskets should be less than $150
oil cooler on ebay for $225-$250
Full egr delete $200
OR
bulletproof cooler... not sure of price, vendors can help you on that
AD2 is around $650. They set the price so most vendors are going to be the same price.
Big tunes, like extreme street, extreme race, street race light, looney tunes those kinds.
SCT's can hold 3 custom tunes. The SF3 can hold 3 canned and 3 custom. Buying an SCT without custom tunes is kind of silly, but still better than anything else IMO. When you buy the SCT from some of the tuners, they give you three tunes for free... There are no settings on them, you plug it into the OBD port, program the truck with which tune you want to use right then, unplug and you're on your way. You want to switch tunes you need to reprogram. Programming takes about 5 minutes on an 03/04 truck and about 2 minutes or less on an 05+ truck.
This will all depend if you do the work yourself of have to pay someone to do it.
ARP's around $400
gaskets should be less than $150
oil cooler on ebay for $225-$250
Full egr delete $200
OR
bulletproof cooler... not sure of price, vendors can help you on that
AD2 is around $650. They set the price so most vendors are going to be the same price.
Big tunes, like extreme street, extreme race, street race light, looney tunes those kinds.
SCT's can hold 3 custom tunes. The SF3 can hold 3 canned and 3 custom. Buying an SCT without custom tunes is kind of silly, but still better than anything else IMO. When you buy the SCT from some of the tuners, they give you three tunes for free... There are no settings on them, you plug it into the OBD port, program the truck with which tune you want to use right then, unplug and you're on your way. You want to switch tunes you need to reprogram. Programming takes about 5 minutes on an 03/04 truck and about 2 minutes or less on an 05+ truck.
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Anytime a diesel head is planed you're going to remove some material and increase the compression ratio - BUT any knowledgeable parts guy can get you thicker head gaskets to make up for the head being cut. Just ask!
Modifying compression ratio in this manner is done like this in gas engines too.
..........Soooooo.........don't trash a head just because your shop has to plane the heads more than .008. You're throwing away a perfectly good set of heads if you do.
Been there and done that.
Modifying compression ratio in this manner is done like this in gas engines too.
..........Soooooo.........don't trash a head just because your shop has to plane the heads more than .008. You're throwing away a perfectly good set of heads if you do.
Been there and done that.
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There is a minimum thickness requirement of the head assembly, which is where the .008" comes from (though this may not be an exact number it satisfies the people on the boards and is a good rule of thumb). Last I knew, thicker headgaskets on a boosted application wasn't a good idea, but what do I know.
The black onyx/victor reinz are probably the best bet. I know the coating on the black onyx makes them thicker a little bit, but we don't have a lot of options.
The black onyx/victor reinz are probably the best bet. I know the coating on the black onyx makes them thicker a little bit, but we don't have a lot of options.
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Laugh all ya want to Zippy, but when your jaw stops hurting from laughing call a REAL diesel shop and you'll find out that when they plane a head the reduction in deck height can be made up for, by using a thicker gasket. It's done all the time in blower engines on race cars..........and YES - on diesels too.
I built the winning engine for the 1985 Baja 500 spring classic race, so until you've done something similar THEN be quiet and listen to others. When they cut the head on a $25,000 600hp Cat diesel what do you think they do to make up for it? Toss it in a dumpster? Use bondo? Masking tape???
Call any Felpro rep and ask him if Felpro makes different thickness head gaskets for the SAME engine.
He who listens and watches others LEARNS. He who closes his eyes and ears and makes stupid comments remains stupid forever!
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Anytime compression becomes a concern a qualified engine shop can o-ring the deck, but it does require machining an o-ring groove in the block's deck. The o-ring then presses up on the gasket and makes for a much tighter seal with the head.
ALL top fuel (and other) dragsters use this method to seal the 40+ pounds of boost these engines develop.
I built the winning engine for the 1985 Baja 500 spring classic race, so until you've done something similar THEN be quiet and listen to others. When they cut the head on a $25,000 600hp Cat diesel what do you think they do to make up for it? Toss it in a dumpster? Use bondo? Masking tape???
Call any Felpro rep and ask him if Felpro makes different thickness head gaskets for the SAME engine.
He who listens and watches others LEARNS. He who closes his eyes and ears and makes stupid comments remains stupid forever!
Definition: "Intelligent Quotient" (I.Q.) = The ability to learn.
Forums are a great place to learn something, but you have to be "intelligent" enough to want to!!!
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There is a minimum thickness requirement of the head assembly, which is where the .008" comes from (though this may not be an exact number it satisfies the people on the boards and is a good rule of thumb). Last I knew, thicker headgaskets on a boosted application wasn't a good idea, but what do I know.
The black onyx/victor reinz are probably the best bet. I know the coating on the black onyx makes them thicker a little bit, but we don't have a lot of options.
The black onyx/victor reinz are probably the best bet. I know the coating on the black onyx makes them thicker a little bit, but we don't have a lot of options.
Anytime compression becomes a concern a qualified engine shop can o-ring the deck, but it does require machining an o-ring groove in the block's deck. The o-ring then presses up on the gasket and makes for a much tighter seal with the head.
ALL top fuel (and other) dragsters use this method to seal the 40+ pounds of boost these engines develop.
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