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Old 10-18-2011, 12:49 PM
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i just had my ficm fixed, just curious how much you charge?
 
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PM on the way. I'm in no way a site sponsor or anything, just trying to help fellow 6.0 guys out and save expensive repair bills. Don't want to "advertise" here...
 
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:36 PM
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Ijection Pressure Regulator can be one issure we had a 7.3L doing the same thing and those 6.0h nos have em to
 
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Correct, could be ICP, could be IPR, could be a leak on an o-ring on a dummy plug or stand pipe... could be a few things... really needs to be on a scanner as well.
 
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
Correct, could be ICP, could be IPR, could be a leak on an o-ring on a dummy plug or stand pipe... could be a few things... really needs to be on a scanner as well.
Speaking of FICM my grandfather has a 05 6.0L Cylinder 2 and 3 are low voltage and distrubution and balance codes are thrown which are bad injectors runs like ****. Alos th FICM is reading FICM low voltage this is with a pro-link scanner. Does it need replace or once we take care of the injectors should that go away. I aint no ford pro what do ya think about that??? Plus whats your price to fix em??? and how long it take?
 
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the ficm prolly is the reson for the injector codes
 
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Originally Posted by 03Powerstroke
the ficm prolly is the reson for the injector codes
The injectors were readin before the FICM, my grandfather been takin it to ford and they KNEW and injector was bad and didnt replace it and thats why we took it in, Plus there a rusty fuse for the FICM when he blew the fuse when he pluged in a trailer and all we had was rusty ones so that can be an issue to. Now the stealership goin out of buisness so we cant go B***** at em now.
 
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Originally Posted by RanchhandTCR
Speaking of FICM my grandfather has a 05 6.0L Cylinder 2 and 3 are low voltage and distrubution and balance codes are thrown which are bad injectors runs like ****. Alos th FICM is reading FICM low voltage this is with a pro-link scanner. Does it need replace or once we take care of the injectors should that go away. I aint no ford pro what do ya think about that??? Plus whats your price to fix em??? and how long it take?
It's probably just two bad injectors, but since you're telling me you're getting FICM voltage codes here what I want you to do. First, get the batteries load tested. Bad or weak batteries will cause the FICM to work poorly which drives the injectors. See where I'm going with that? Napa or Advanced Auto will usually test them for free. If ONE battery is bad, replace BOTH batteries. It's amazing how much batteries can effect the way these trucks run. If the batteries test OK, then move on to testing the FICM, it's simple to do, but you'll need an extra set of hands for this and a multi-meter and a couple basic tools.

Here's how to do that: 6.0's, FICM's and Cold Start Problems - PowerStrokeNation
If you need help with this part or fixing the FICM, PM me, I can give you my cell number and walk you through the test. If batteries and FICM all test out good, then replacing the injectors is probably the next step unfortunately. I would recommend using OEM Ford injectors, as they come with a 12k mile/12month warranty.

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the ficm prolly is the reson for the injector codes
It's very possible. When I've seen FICM's mis-diagnosed it's typically showing codes for more than 2 injectors. Like an entire bank will come up bad. It is still possible though. The low voltage codes makes me wonder about the conditions of the batteries though...

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The injectors were readin before the FICM, my grandfather been takin it to ford and they KNEW and injector was bad and didnt replace it and thats why we took it in, Plus there a rusty fuse for the FICM when he blew the fuse when he pluged in a trailer and all we had was rusty ones so that can be an issue to. Now the stealership goin out of buisness so we cant go B***** at em now.
I stood at a dealership arguing with a master level diesel technician after he tried telling my buddy his 2004 6.0 needed 4 injectors. It needed 2,4,6 and 8. I thought, isn't that odd it needs an entire bank of injectors out of no where. Especially since it ran fine and then quit out of no where. We finally convinced the tech's to put a new FICM on (back before I knew what the inside of a FICM looked like) and truck ran great. He also tried convincing me the injectors had no lubrication in them because of the vegistroke we were running. If you've ever touched fryer oil, you'd know why that sounds so ridiculous.
 
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
It's probably just two bad injectors, but since you're telling me you're getting FICM voltage codes here what I want you to do. First, get the batteries load tested. Bad or weak batteries will cause the FICM to work poorly which drives the injectors. See where I'm going with that? Napa or Advanced Auto will usually test them for free. If ONE battery is bad, replace BOTH batteries. It's amazing how much batteries can effect the way these trucks run. If the batteries test OK, then move on to testing the FICM, it's simple to do, but you'll need an extra set of hands for this and a multi-meter and a couple basic tools.

Here's how to do that: 6.0's, FICM's and Cold Start Problems - PowerStrokeNation
If you need help with this part or fixing the FICM, PM me, I can give you my cell number and walk you through the test. If batteries and FICM all test out good, then replacing the injectors is probably the next step unfortunately. I would recommend using OEM Ford injectors, as they come with a 12k mile/12month warranty.



It's very possible. When I've seen FICM's mis-diagnosed it's typically showing codes for more than 2 injectors. Like an entire bank will come up bad. It is still possible though. The low voltage codes makes me wonder about the conditions of the batteries though...



I stood at a dealership arguing with a master level diesel technician after he tried telling my buddy his 2004 6.0 needed 4 injectors. It needed 2,4,6 and 8. I thought, isn't that odd it needs an entire bank of injectors out of no where. Especially since it ran fine and then quit out of no where. We finally convinced the tech's to put a new FICM on (back before I knew what the inside of a FICM looked like) and truck ran great. He also tried convincing me the injectors had no lubrication in them because of the vegistroke we were running. If you've ever touched fryer oil, you'd know why that sounds so ridiculous.
I got a battery load teseter, multimeter in our shop, We did replace a battery a couple of months ago and havent botherd to test the other. But hes takin it to ford to get the injectors replace Id do it but Im still in tech school so dont have a whole lot of time thanks for the imput.
 
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:28 AM
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If he gets injectors replaced and it comes back about the same condition it went in, don't be surprised. It might fix it, it might not. Injector replacement is the most expensive and most tedious step out of troubleshooting this, so that would be where I would end, not start, but it's up to you guys.

Replacing one battery is never a good idea, typically the other one is not far behind and it will drain the new good one down real fast too. Just for future reference. The multimeter itself won't really tell you anything, the load tester is what lets you know what's going on. It is also possible the alternator could be having issues, I have seen this a few times.

Let us know how you make out, just makes it easier for guys down the road to troubleshoot. Thanks!

 


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