Bought 2004 F250 Diesel 6.0L, in March '10, now it doesn't run, got 20K loan and dealer says its our fault we starved of oil Can any diesel mechanics out there help??
Our mechanical problems started in May after hearing grinding when pulling horse trailer. Dealer tried to get out of fixing but we hadn't even made 1st payment yet so after helping them understand ...they replaced turbo and EGR valve we were then back on the road. Sept 22nd more grinding noises underneath, limped truck home wont' start. We asked a friend who used to be diesel mech to take a look, he eventually found metal shavings in oil, says engine is more than likely trashed and that Ford didn't do all they were supposed to when they changed out the first turbo like changing some oil pump screen and more... "My question is aren't their certain guidelines Ford certified mechanics are supposed to follow when replacing a turbo? How do I find a list of these guidelines?" We only had a 30day warranty, dealer says its our fault, we starved turbo of oil. Next week we have a sit down with dealers president, their cert Ford mechanics and our mechanic (whose not cert.) to fight for our rights~ if things don't go well we are stuck with 20K loan on a truck that doesn't run, can this REALLY be happening??? Were in KS and our a Lemon law seems to only protect new vehicles. Weve called DA & BBB not sure what else we can do.
Here's notes from dealer invoice when they replaced turbo first time.
At 67406 miles Performed visual inspection was ok retrieved codes monitored pids and performed pinpoint tests found VGT was stuck and the EGR valve was intermittently sticking, removed turbo from veh and disassembled found unison ring was stuck on center section but vanes had been damaged by exhaust impeller when it started to come apart. replaced turbo charger asy and reassembled replaced EGR valve and cleared codes, test drove and ran smoothly produced 23 PSi returned to customer. no smoke no other problems found at this time.

 

So what is actually wrong with the truck now? The turbo is bad, or the whole motor is junk? I'm not sure I follow. Sounds like the dealer replaced the turbo for you like they should have. Just because your friend says the motor is trashed, does not mean it is. What constitutes "trash"? Definitely need some more info on what the truck is doing right now. Does it run at all? Low on power, no smoke or anything?

From what I'm gathering you starved the turbo for oil, somehow!? But your motor is now trash? Please elaborate!

 

Wait Ok husband said Low pressure oil pump destroyed becasue something went through it when turbo shredded. All kinds of metal in oil. Truck wont run at all, we took 2 wks at home to have our mechanic identify the problem it wouldn't start at all, turns over but wont start.....sorry this comes from me a woman describing it....probably not saying anything correctly

 

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Wow! This is all too familiar for me. Your first mistake was buying an 04 Powerstroke to begin with. I have a dodge cummins now because I had alot of problems with MY 2004 Ford F250 6.0 Powerstroke. I had my truck for a year and a half and it was on a tow truck five times, to the dealer. I went through 3 turbos in a year, and 3 EGRs in a year and a half. The 2004 6.0 Powerstroke is the biggest piece of s**t ever designed. Fords biggest mistake. LEMON LAW took care of mine. Went with Dodge Cummins and its been the best truck Ive ever owned. Sounds like you have an expensive endeavor, and a heck of a challenge ahead of you. We all learn by our mistakes! Good luck.

 

That wins the award for the most useless post I've seen on here yet this year. Thanks for all your help and words of wisdom. Please stick to your Dodge section if this is the kind of info you wish to share.



I have heard of a few trucks here and there that eat the LPOP's for some reason or another. I know there are companies that actually make billet LPOP gears as well. I don't recall why they did this though. My guess is the LPOP was eating itself apart and those metal shavings got into the turbo taking out the turbo.

It's really hard to tell without more info. How often was oil changed, what kind of oil used? If the LPOP is done and not feeding the HPOP, obviously it wont start. Sorry to hear of your troubles, it happens to all of them despite what Dodge owners tell you.

You can always sell it and buy a Dodge, then have an excellent motor (Dodge didn't design that, just like Ford didn't design the 6.0 ((though they did tinker on it)), and a crappy truck wrapped around it.

 

the 6.0 is known for eating lpop. It should be covered under fords powertrain warranty if the vehicle is covered by that. If it truly is a warranty problem call fords warranty customer service. They will take care of you if it should actually be covered. If it is just the lpop the whole engine probably isnt trashed. Put an aftermarket lpop on it and make sure the dowel pins are lined up correctly and the pump is torqued to spec and change the oil. If the oil is very metallic i would change it and then run it up to op temp and then change it again. Make sure you get all the shavings out

 

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trying to get my with my husband and get more information for you weve both been so busy dirtbike racing/roping all weekend but will be home soon ALL without a truck I might add.

 

well like with any vehicle including but not limited to the 6.0 the engines will go bad some sooner than others I've known more people to replace the cummins before 100k miles before people that own the 6.0 ford, granted the dodges were "heavily" modified, but unfortunately if they can prove that you starved the engine of oil it would be your fault that it is bad, however the oil pressure gauge should have been a good indicator of something if that was the case, I'd wait and see what the president of the dealership has to say and if they do deem it your fault the 6.0's can be found pretty cheap, of course they're not going to be a small block chevy price, but i've seen em with studs and the mods that need to be done for under 4k dollars