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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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Like I said above, some have the upgraded timing cover with the step that prevents the dowel pin from backing out and some do not.

Look at the link I posted above....Daves's Dads truck was an 02 and it got grenaded by the KDP. So to me, that means any 12V and any second gen 24V (98.5-2002).
 

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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I tabbed mine cause it wasn't the upgraded cover.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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this doesent happen to all 12v's does it?

some people never even heard about them and have well over 300k on thiers

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i just found this. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/94-Dodgecummins-The-dowel_98592.htm
 

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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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mine was fixed before i bought my truck
 
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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hehee bought the kit ~ but sold the truck before we had to install it
 
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Old Jul 27, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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I got mine fixed torwards the end of last year.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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OK, I missed something somewhere, What is a Kdp and what is the fix for?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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KDP = Killer dowel pin. Its one of the many pins used to align the aluminum gear case to the block. The problem with the dowel pin occurs because the hole in the aluminum gear housing was drilled through. During engine operation vibration could cause the dowel pin to work its way out of the hole and fall into the gear case. Best case scenario the dowel pin falls right into the oil pan or land in the gear housing, causing no damage at all. But what usually happens the pin will get caught in the camshaft gear and forced into the aluminum gear housing, breaking out a big chunk of the housing which would cause a huge oil leak and an expensive, time consuming failure. Worst-case scenario is when the dowel pin goes between the cam and crank gears, or cam and injection pump gears, breaking the gear off the camshaft. The camshaft stops rotating instantly causing valves to stop operating, leaving some valves open and some closed. The crankshaft continues to rotate for a few seconds, slamming pistons into valves, and possibly ruining block, crank, rods, cylinder head, and valve train. Almost no reusable parts in this case, a complete engine swap could be required. All the KDP kit does is takes a bolt and a special washer so it seals off the escape path of the pin.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Go to youtube and search for KDP. There was a guy who did, I think, a four part series showing the entire replacement process. Now mind you, this video was made after the KDP found it's way into the housing, causing extensive damage. Here is the first one:

 
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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I picked up my 95, and on the way back home the KDP fell out. The only reason I know it was then was because I pulled the fan and bracket before I bought the truck to check if it was in fact cracked (thats where the KDP pushes through), and it wasn't. Got it home, parked it, and there was a big puddle of oil under the truck the next day, sure enough , the KDP had fallen out. So I had to replace that whole case.

The 97 had it done when I bought it, and the 98 did too.
 
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