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Old 01-26-2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 93_Fummins
Mine had the twin I-beam 2wd front suspension, and the pan cleared my crossmember and everything just fine. It took a shoehorn to get it in the first time, but it sets in there with the stock crossmember just fine. I wasn't aware that the 4wd TTB crossmembers were any different. I did change mine to solid axle though by putting the Dana 61 out of the Dodge donor truck in it. I also used the transmission, Getrag 360, from the Dodge donor truck.
IIRC the 2wds dont have a problem because there isnt a differential under there. but the 4wds can cause a problem. but like stated earlier a small lift will cure that problem. from what ive heard it isnt the crossmember that gets in the way its more the diff than anything. i was just outside looking at the 87 f250 4wd i have and the cummins sittin in the garage, and if it fit, it would be close, the oil pans on those are just so big
 
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so i would need a small body lift or suspension lift?
 
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Old 01-26-2010, 05:46 PM
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IF you do need one, it would be suspension. a body lift will not raise the frame off of the differential. but try and it in there first to see what kind of clearance problems you will or will not have
 
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OK IM GONNA TRY TO FIND A SOLID AXLE ANYWAY CAUSE IVE BEEN WANTING ONE ANYWAY
 
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SAS are fun
 
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:15 PM
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Most people do sas because the TTB are absolute crap. the TTB can barely handle the 351 my Bronco has and the added weight of the cummins will crush it. you will have to do alignments like crazy. the TTB is just a bad idea that Ford had.

I would do a sas or maybe even make the donor truck's frame fit the cab of your truck. that might be easier. Or that is what I am going to do when the Bronco project gets started.
 
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Old 01-28-2010, 12:00 AM
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well from what ive heard being mine is a 250 i can get a solid axle out of a 350 and it will mostly bolt right up
 
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I believe from what I have read that is the case in most body style years
 
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 5.9Bronco...eventually
Most people do sas because the TTB are absolute crap. the TTB can barely handle the 351 my Bronco has and the added weight of the cummins will crush it. you will have to do alignments like crazy. the TTB is just a bad idea that Ford had.

I would do a sas or maybe even make the donor truck's frame fit the cab of your truck. that might be easier. Or that is what I am going to do when the Bronco project gets started.
I disagree. I've seen stock TTB setups stand up to 460cid engines and 44" TSL's. The only real "bad" part about TTB suspensions is that they have a nasty habit of sagging springs after a while and cause all sorts of annoying tire wear issues. Beyond that, I've actually had fairly decent luck with durability. It was a better idea at the time than the CV style IFS setups; less parts and people were more familiar with u-joints. Just my two cents... I still prefer a Dana 60 though...

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well from what ive heard being mine is a 250 i can get a solid axle out of a 350 and it will mostly bolt right up
As long as spring pad distance is the same. Keep in mind that a Dana 60 out of a '79 won't work because of the narrow pad distance. But a Dana 60, kingpin or balljoint, of roughly the same year model as the truck it's going into should bolt right up to most F-250 TTB setups. You'll need to fab a Panhard rod setup though, or your side-to-side steering will shift the axle around...
 

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Old 01-28-2010, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 93_Fummins
As long as spring pad distance is the same. Keep in mind that a Dana 60 out of a '79 won't work because of the narrow pad distance. But a Dana 60, kingpin or balljoint, of roughly the same year model as the truck it's going into should bolt right up to most F-250 TTB setups. You'll need to fab a Panhard rod setup though, or your side-to-side steering will shift the axle around...
That also applies to the '78 front D60, as both of those are what most full-size Jeep guys use as an upgrade. Due to the narrow perch width, they are bolt-in for the old waggys.
 


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