Replacing Duramax LB7 Injectors 01-04 tips and hints
#171
This is my first diesel. I figure i have a bad injector...here's my issue,i have to prime it everytime and use a touch of starting fluid to bust if off everytime now...I know not to use a lot of fluid cause it'll damage the glowplugs and rings. Once it's running,idle is slightly rough, sounds like a gasburner with a sparkplug fowling out...kinna hickups every now and then. When it does this,it puts out a lil white/greyish smoke. it has striaght pipe so it rolls coal when i hammer on it...i'm just worried about the white smoke...I runs fine tho,no loss of power. It's tempermental tho, so sometimes it'll show some white smoke while ideling and other times it's purrin like a kitten and only black smoke when i hammer on it. Is this injector problem or does it seem more extensive like CP3? And how do i determine WHICH injector needs replacing? GM diagnostic appointment or what?
I've had my 2002 LB7 since it was new. Currently 288,000 miles and the injectors have been replaced 3 times (once by me). NEVER had a problem starting due to injectors, but I did crack the plastic bleeder screw on top of the fuel filter once and that caused it to not start unless I bled the system each time I wanted to start it.
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I've had my 2002 LB7 since it was new. Currently 288,000 miles and the injectors have been replaced 3 times (once by me). NEVER had a problem starting due to injectors, but I did crack the plastic bleeder screw on top of the fuel filter once and that caused it to not start unless I bled the system each time I wanted to start it.
i would say that all of the failures likely fall into one of these five categories: cracked bodies, ball seat erosion, stuck/sticking pintle, clogged or worn nozzle or failed solenoid.
the cracking was solved with a new/better alloy.
for the ball and seat issue, Bosch started hardening and chrome plating the ball and seat. this helped but did not solve it.
suck pintles and clogged nozzles, nothing Bosch could do here but better filtration helps.
failed solenoid, i seem to be the only one with this??? had two go out like this.
injectors can also fail with more then one of these issues.
#174
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Just got mine put in running good this post was a great help when pretty smooth took a while but worth it 2002 first set put in at 84000 at dealer 2nd set put in at. 162000 has been going bad for last 10000 mi glad to have them changed last time I like my truck but this is a costly problem had a 96 dodge cumins 234000 no problems with motor at all just needed crew cab 1 more problem with duramax Goinng back to dodge
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Just got mine put in running good this post was a great help when pretty smooth took a while but worth it 2002 first set put in at 84000 at dealer 2nd set put in at. 162000 has been going bad for last 10000 mi glad to have them changed last time I like my truck but this is a costly problem had a 96 dodge cumins 234000 no problems with motor at all just needed crew cab 1 more problem with duramax Goinng back to dodge
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#175
Hi, new here. Found the site by doing a search on Duramax injectors.
2500HeavyDuty,
Couple of questions on this excelent post.
Have a 2002 Duramax. Injectors were replaced at 77k miles, and 160k miles under warranty. Now have 210k miles and this time I get to pay someone else to do it or do it myself. Reading your post, I feel pretty confident that I can do it myself, as I spent about 7 years as a GM mechanic back in the 80's.
So here's what I'm not sure about.
a) is there a parts list for this job... what do I need besides injectors?
b) I see several folks talking about using bigger injectors. Is there any advantage to this besides more power? Will they last longer? My Dmax has been an excellent truck and other than this issue, I have no complaints. I use it to tow a 10,000 lb boat, a 16' cargo trailer, and a 5,000 lb boat. I love the truck and want to keep it till it falls apart or 300,000 miles... whichever comes first, LOL, and my injectors seem to last 60k-80k miles which means I'll probably be doing this again. My truck is bone stock and does everything I've asked of it, so not really interested in installing different injectors unless they'll last longer.
Thank you for the post!!!!!
2500HeavyDuty,
Couple of questions on this excelent post.
Have a 2002 Duramax. Injectors were replaced at 77k miles, and 160k miles under warranty. Now have 210k miles and this time I get to pay someone else to do it or do it myself. Reading your post, I feel pretty confident that I can do it myself, as I spent about 7 years as a GM mechanic back in the 80's.
So here's what I'm not sure about.
a) is there a parts list for this job... what do I need besides injectors?
b) I see several folks talking about using bigger injectors. Is there any advantage to this besides more power? Will they last longer? My Dmax has been an excellent truck and other than this issue, I have no complaints. I use it to tow a 10,000 lb boat, a 16' cargo trailer, and a 5,000 lb boat. I love the truck and want to keep it till it falls apart or 300,000 miles... whichever comes first, LOL, and my injectors seem to last 60k-80k miles which means I'll probably be doing this again. My truck is bone stock and does everything I've asked of it, so not really interested in installing different injectors unless they'll last longer.
Thank you for the post!!!!!
Edit: I really hate having to do this every ~80k miles but just did some math. If you're doing the work yourself and paying $201.75 for injectors like I am, it cost about 2 cents a mile for injectors. Not bad, but still a royal PITA I could do w/o. Just don't want to pay $55k for a new truck that has all that pollution crap on it.
Last edited by Back-in-Black; 08-18-2013 at 07:03 PM.
#176
Hello new to the forum. Great write up alot of time to do this!!
I have been turning wrenches for many years & have been using valve grinding compound on fasteners so the tool wont slip & strip out it works great. Just put a dab on fastener head or inside tool & I very seldom use allen sockets I use torx bits they usually fit (sometimes a little tap with hammer) & don't strip out as easy. Try the compound it really works great & has saved me countless hours over the years.. Just make sure to clean it out good if using on lubed parts like inside engines or transmissions!!!
I have been turning wrenches for many years & have been using valve grinding compound on fasteners so the tool wont slip & strip out it works great. Just put a dab on fastener head or inside tool & I very seldom use allen sockets I use torx bits they usually fit (sometimes a little tap with hammer) & don't strip out as easy. Try the compound it really works great & has saved me countless hours over the years.. Just make sure to clean it out good if using on lubed parts like inside engines or transmissions!!!
Last edited by RARI2003; 08-20-2013 at 09:10 PM. Reason: spell
#177
Finished installing this set of injectors. Also adjusted the valve lash while I had it torn down. I didn't spend any time trying to measure how much clearance they had before I adjusted them but I would say they were at anywhere from .015 all the to maybe .025 - possibly more on a couple. Anyway, it made HELL of a difference in how loud the motor is when running. Wished I had done it last time I changed the injectors!
#179
Just about done with mine also.
Attaching valve adjustment guide, and pdf version of this write up.
Valve Adjustment.pdf
LB7 Injector Install Guide Part 1.pdf
LB7 Injector Install Guide Part 2.pdf
LB7 Injector Install Guide Part 3.pdf
Last edited by JustinRSharp; 09-04-2013 at 09:57 AM.
#180
A few tips from a just finished job.
I didnt take the time to read all 12 pages so I apologize if I duplicate info.
1. Getting the upper valve cover off was super easy by using a tall socket ( I used a 1/2 inch drive wobble) to use as a pedestal to use a crow bar style pry bar the tap up. Broke the seal free very easily.
2. I had a crazy no start condition after I was done, a day of mucking about with it and it turns out to be a few bent pins in the lower big connector mounted on the drivers side valve cover.
I also changed the CP3 and replaced with a LBZ because it was less expensive. So far no idle or run problems with the LBZ FPR. Hope one of those tips helps someone else out there.
I just did this job over the weekend, about 12-15 hours total, first time doing it, no manual, just this post (fantastic BTW). Basic tools and a garage can make this an easy but lengthy DIY job. I will be doing the Dual Cat filter and lift pump addition shortly along with addatives to help this set live longer. My truck is new to me but had injectors changed at the dealer at 154K and now has 206K.
1. Getting the upper valve cover off was super easy by using a tall socket ( I used a 1/2 inch drive wobble) to use as a pedestal to use a crow bar style pry bar the tap up. Broke the seal free very easily.
2. I had a crazy no start condition after I was done, a day of mucking about with it and it turns out to be a few bent pins in the lower big connector mounted on the drivers side valve cover.
I also changed the CP3 and replaced with a LBZ because it was less expensive. So far no idle or run problems with the LBZ FPR. Hope one of those tips helps someone else out there.
I just did this job over the weekend, about 12-15 hours total, first time doing it, no manual, just this post (fantastic BTW). Basic tools and a garage can make this an easy but lengthy DIY job. I will be doing the Dual Cat filter and lift pump addition shortly along with addatives to help this set live longer. My truck is new to me but had injectors changed at the dealer at 154K and now has 206K.