People always bashing on the 7.3
#91
05-01-2012, 01:37 AM
holy hell guys i did not want to start such a pissing contest, wait i meant pissing war over this but 85 305 is not compleatly making up when he said a 300 HP PSD could out perform a 400 HP CTD. I know this because i just raced my buddy who has a 07.5 6.7 cummins and is H&S tuned and custom pipes and we both started from a stop and he had me for just a little bit and he always had to shift first everytime while i kept going and finally had to shift and i would get ahead of him right before i shifted then i would lose ground again until i was around 2800 rpm and i finally got ahead of him but had to slow down. If we would of kept going he would of finally passed me cuz he has 6 gears and i only have 5 so im not saying my truck was more powerful or faster but the power curve is alot more broad on v8s so stop saying he is making up and BTW he was on a hot tune and i was on 100hp canned tune on my TS
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#92
05-01-2012, 07:24 AM
Diesel Wrench
Wait, are you trying to say a mechanic knows more than a mechanical engineer? Or did I interpret that wrong? Because a mechanical engineer designs the **** that a diesel mechanic fixes.
As far as the vp on the 24v I was gonna buy, I don't know too much about their design or anything but my friend said its relatively a pain in the dick to swap the vp. Plus the cost of a new one is ridiculous.
As far as the vp on the 24v I was gonna buy, I don't know too much about their design or anything but my friend said its relatively a pain in the dick to swap the vp. Plus the cost of a new one is ridiculous.
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#93
05-01-2012, 07:29 AM
Diesel Enthusiast
This made me laugh, congrats
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And fire power you are by far the biggest baby I've ever seen post on this site. If you(***
mins) guys werent so insecure you wouldn't feel the need to backup your holy 5.9s by posting in this thread. This thread like most is oppinionated so quit taking it so seriously holy cow. Powerstroke people I know only talk sh*t about how much smoke cummins blow not the performance side.
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And fire power you are by far the biggest baby I've ever seen post on this site. If you(***
mins) guys werent so insecure you wouldn't feel the need to backup your holy 5.9s by posting in this thread. This thread like most is oppinionated so quit taking it so seriously holy cow. Powerstroke people I know only talk sh*t about how much smoke cummins blow not the performance side.
#94
05-01-2012, 07:31 AM
Diesel Enthusiast
holy hell guys i did not want to start such a pissing contest, wait i meant pissing war over this but 85 305 is not compleatly making up when he said a 300 HP PSD could out perform a 400 HP CTD. I know this because i just raced my buddy who has a 07.5 6.7 cummins and is H&S tuned and custom pipes and we both started from a stop and he had me for just a little bit and he always had to shift first everytime while i kept going and finally had to shift and i would get ahead of him right before i shifted then i would lose ground again until i was around 2800 rpm and i finally got ahead of him but had to slow down. If we would of kept going he would of finally passed me cuz he has 6 gears and i only have 5 so im not saying my truck was more powerful or faster but the power curve is alot more broad on v8s so stop saying he is making up and BTW he was on a hot tune and i was on 100hp canned tune on my TS
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#95
05-01-2012, 07:38 AM
Diesel Wrench
Chris- isn't it funny how we're in the POWERSTROKE part of the forum, yet there's more cummins guys in here posting than powerstroke guys? I agree with you.. Its impossible to talk to a cummins guy without getting into a pissing contest. I was merely stating WHY the cummins guys feel the need to knock powerstrokes, but how even most cummins guys LIKE the 7.3, when all of a sudden we're talking how much faster a common rail duramax is than a 7.3
Tireturd- I was merely stating why a v8 diesel is far better overall than an i6. THAT'S why a ptroke with 100hp less can outhaul an i6... The area under the curve is much more broad, compared to a cummins i6 peaky low rpm numbers
Tireturd- I was merely stating why a v8 diesel is far better overall than an i6. THAT'S why a ptroke with 100hp less can outhaul an i6... The area under the curve is much more broad, compared to a cummins i6 peaky low rpm numbers
The V8's should be rocking the sled pulls in the stock class but they don't
And the Idea of V8's being better then a inline, try to sell that Idea to kenworth, Peterbelt, freightliner, John Deere Case IH , New Holland, Massy Ferguson. I guess Ford and Chevy know something that they don't. Even VW uses inline diesel motors.
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#96
05-01-2012, 09:15 AM
Diesel Bomber
I've not bashed on the 7.3 I simply said a 300 hp 7.3 wouldn't outperform a 400 hp Cummins, I do agree though this thread is stupid 
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Why not just close it 
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#97
05-01-2012, 10:51 AM
well I don't know why he said it takes that long man. I have seen them done in 45 min and a friend of mine says he does them now and then and is down to 1hr 20 min. If you put a fass system on a vp truck it will live a long time. My truck has over 200k on it now with a vp put on with 125k on it now.
Thats the only reason I didn't get that nice 1ton tho.Instead of getting all you panties in a wad why don't you guys help out people who post questions on this forum? Here i am sitting with a truck i am trying to fix by the help of people on the forum and my thread has two replies and this one has 83! 20 in the past day or two! if you either have a cummins, powerstroke, or a duramax and stop being a internet warrior this is ridiculous use your knowledge on this forum or don't at all
I have both Fords and Dodge Diesels. I still think you full of it that a Ford with a 100 less hp will beat a dodge. I have raced a lot of Fords I don't know how my 04 Dodge with a 6 speed manual that dynoed 420 hp and 840 tq could beat a 6.0 powerstroke with a edge juice. That 6.0 had to be pushing the high 300's on hp plus was a auto.
The V8's should be rocking the sled pulls in the stock class but they don't
And the Idea of V8's being better then a inline, try to sell that Idea to kenworth, Peterbelt, freightliner, John Deere Case IH , New Holland, Massy Ferguson. I guess Ford and Chevy know something that they don't. Even VW uses inline diesel motors.
The V8's should be rocking the sled pulls in the stock class but they don't
And the Idea of V8's being better then a inline, try to sell that Idea to kenworth, Peterbelt, freightliner, John Deere Case IH , New Holland, Massy Ferguson. I guess Ford and Chevy know something that they don't. Even VW uses inline diesel motors.
The reason diesel v8's dont do well in sled pulls is because you really want to wind a diesel v8 out... in a sled pull, you need torque immediately. And also the reason you see more cummins is because they are a dime a dozen to get power out of. Very cheap.
I noticed you didn't include caterpillar or detroit in there... is there a reason for that? Those manufacturers you mentioned do mostly OTR work. I'm about to explain more in-depth on the answer you are looking for in the next reply
The reason big rigs run inline series motors, is for space savings. Inline motors are more widely used because they are easier to work on (especially during on-road breakdowns), have fewer moving parts (although modern days i6's dont have THAT much fewer moving parts than diesel v8's), and they have good torque to get big trucks moving off the line. Why do you think i6 big rigs have 18 gears though? We're back to the whole 'short power band' I've been speaking of. If big rigs didn't have 18gears, they would never fall within their powerbands, which end at very low rpms.
Now, I have a question for you. If diesel v8's are such junk, why do tug boats, locomotives, ocean liners, and major heavy-duty construction equipment use v-series diesel motors?
#98
05-01-2012, 12:23 PM
Because you and the other smoke blowers are still making a big deal out of this thread, also that thread you made last night was funny. you ruined this thread that didnt single anyone out and the one you made last night about powerstroke people hating on cummins, ya you are some kind of mature guy. 
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The only reason you won was because he had an edge 
I agree though inlines are great for towing (semi's).
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I have both Fords and Dodge Diesels. I still think you full of it that a Ford with a 100 less hp will beat a dodge. I have raced a lot of Fords I don't know how my 04 Dodge with a 6 speed manual that dynoed 420 hp and 840 tq could beat a 6.0 powerstroke with a edge juice. That 6.0 had to be pushing the high 300's on hp plus was a auto.
The V8's should be rocking the sled pulls in the stock class but they don't
And the Idea of V8's being better then a inline, try to sell that Idea to kenworth, Peterbelt, freightliner, John Deere Case IH , New Holland, Massy Ferguson. I guess Ford and Chevy know something that they don't. Even VW uses inline diesel motors.
The V8's should be rocking the sled pulls in the stock class but they don't
And the Idea of V8's being better then a inline, try to sell that Idea to kenworth, Peterbelt, freightliner, John Deere Case IH , New Holland, Massy Ferguson. I guess Ford and Chevy know something that they don't. Even VW uses inline diesel motors.
I agree though inlines are great for towing (semi's).
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#100
05-01-2012, 01:09 PM
Diesel Enthusiast
Because you and the other smoke blowers are still making a big deal out of this thread, also that thread you made last night was funny. you ruined this thread that didnt single anyone out and the one you made last night about powerstroke people hating on cummins, ya you are some kind of mature guy.
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The only reason you won was because he had an edge I agree though inlines are great for towing (semi's).
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The only reason you won was because he had an edge
I agree though inlines are great for towing (semi's).
