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i would like it if someone could look over this circuit i drew up. i am trying to come up with a fail safe way to charge each ultra cap with the alternator. i think this method will charge each cap individuality so as to not over charge them and keep them balanced.
i am planing to tap directly off of the winding of the alternator for 3 phase power. i would keep the DC regulator in tact so as to stop the charging once the bank is fully charged
i am using SCRs instead of diodes as diodes will always be "on" in one direction and this would present a short. SCRs on the other hand can be turned on & off separately so as to avoid this short
i am relatively savvy with electronics but have no formal education in it. before i purchase a bunch of SCRs i would like to feel more confident that this circuit will work
if you are knowledgeable in electronics could you please look this over for me and let me know your thoughts
Thanks
Jason
i am planing to tap directly off of the winding of the alternator for 3 phase power. i would keep the DC regulator in tact so as to stop the charging once the bank is fully charged
i am using SCRs instead of diodes as diodes will always be "on" in one direction and this would present a short. SCRs on the other hand can be turned on & off separately so as to avoid this short
i am relatively savvy with electronics but have no formal education in it. before i purchase a bunch of SCRs i would like to feel more confident that this circuit will work
if you are knowledgeable in electronics could you please look this over for me and let me know your thoughts
Thanks
Jason
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well i dont think that circuit would work. looks like it would back feed though the caps into the coils
here is another one i drew up. if i separate the windings on the alternator indo 3 separate sets then it looks like i could just use diodes. the setup becomes much simpler
Capacitor 1+ charges on the positive cycle while capacitor 1- charges on the negative cycle. same for capacitors 2+, 2-, 3+ & 3-
take a look and let me know what you think
here is another one i drew up. if i separate the windings on the alternator indo 3 separate sets then it looks like i could just use diodes. the setup becomes much simpler
Capacitor 1+ charges on the positive cycle while capacitor 1- charges on the negative cycle. same for capacitors 2+, 2-, 3+ & 3-
take a look and let me know what you think
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ok, thanks
thought he was around as he seems active in the WMO thread
well, i am going to open up my alternator and check out the winding. hoping there are two sets of three phase windings (paralleled)
if there is then i can split them all up and use a bridge rectomfrier on each set to independently charge the caps. that way they will all be at the exact voltage. this will help compensate over time when the values start to drift
if there is only one 3 phase set of windings then i will wire it like my last schematic
thought he was around as he seems active in the WMO thread
well, i am going to open up my alternator and check out the winding. hoping there are two sets of three phase windings (paralleled)
if there is then i can split them all up and use a bridge rectomfrier on each set to independently charge the caps. that way they will all be at the exact voltage. this will help compensate over time when the values start to drift
if there is only one 3 phase set of windings then i will wire it like my last schematic
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Re start?
Am quite ignorant about subject, so humor/educate me a bit.
How long will same/similar setup crank a motor before loss of charge?
IF charge runs out prior to start from some mechanical malfunction, or low fuel condition, how would one recharge the setup for the next re-crank?
Thanks for your indulgence...
How long will same/similar setup crank a motor before loss of charge?
IF charge runs out prior to start from some mechanical malfunction, or low fuel condition, how would one recharge the setup for the next re-crank?
Thanks for your indulgence...
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your right, it doesn't have the same capacity as a set of batteries. it will be flat after about 20 seconds of cranking. it does turn over real fast for the first 5 seconds or so.
this is not a set up for engines with problems or hard starting situations. if your truck starts up in the first few seconds then this will work fine for it
as for charging, any DC voltage source will charge it. my battery charger works just fine. if i need to i put it on the "cranking" setting and pump in as much current as possible into it. it charges as fast as you can supply it with power. normal batteries will over heat and get damaged with the high charging current
otherwise it works similar to lead acid batteries, just don't exceed the max working voltage
this is not a set up for engines with problems or hard starting situations. if your truck starts up in the first few seconds then this will work fine for it
as for charging, any DC voltage source will charge it. my battery charger works just fine. if i need to i put it on the "cranking" setting and pump in as much current as possible into it. it charges as fast as you can supply it with power. normal batteries will over heat and get damaged with the high charging current
otherwise it works similar to lead acid batteries, just don't exceed the max working voltage