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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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i have the 3ks in my truck and want to go to the 4ks, pure diesel performance sells an up- grade spring kit to make your 3ks into 4ks-has anyone used this or should i just get a whole new 4k kit, the upgrade is only 30bux, also when i do the 60lbs valve springs can i just do the 6 or do i NEED to do all 12?

as for the timing, me and buddy just bumped it so that it ran alot better with the injectors but i want to set it for 16*, how would i go about fixing it right? i have the gauge set up you use on the barrel to set it right. can anyone telling me of a thread that already talked about this?
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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you need all twelve
TSB 18-10-94 Rev. A
here is a link to time it
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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never really understood why people would only install 6 springs and not all 12.

I have bought and installed the 3k to 4k kit, its just the two innersprings. very easy to install and well worth the 30 bucks.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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The only reason you should install just the 6 exhaust springs is if you are running an exhaust brake on an other wise stock engine.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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ok i will put all 12 in, should i replace any seals on the valve stems while im in there? or just leave them alone since they arent leaking?
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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I would just leave them alone
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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ok thanks for the link i have read it over a few a times and get a little confessed with it all but i will stuble my way thru it (wish i could find some lame man directions)
one question tho, do i need to set it back to stock timing and then tune to 16*? or can i just figure out much more it needs and advance it? also is there a chart somewhere with mm's to *s conversion for my 160hp pump?
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Here's the link for the mm to *'s
Diesel Timing
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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thanks thats what i was looking for, i guess if i want to go more than 16* .1= .5*????
 
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Old May 30, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Based on that chart, I believe that's correct, but again without head studs it's not recommended advancing the timing beyond 16* I know that some people are running up to 17* without the studs, but it depends on what kind of a gambler you are. I'm currently at 16.5* Runs great, and the 4k springs are in, I'm not sure how much I'm loving them, may need to readjust the springs if I barely have any throttle on it jerks hard enough to send you into the steering wheel.
 
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