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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by North Pole Hooker
Good to -40 isn't the same as -60 to -70. I kid you not, we will get a -60 spell that lasts 2-3 weeks in the Alaskan Interior. Is there anything that we know of that will handle that sort of climate?
I don't know that any additive will help when it's THAT cold. Personally I'm looking into fuel tank heaters this winter for my truck. The only issue is that they're all designed for aluminum tanks and pickups use plastic, so it could create an issue with heat and structural integrity. Also mounting it might be tricky. But I definitely want to get a fuel tank heater. Less winter additive + Warmer fuel = a better running truck.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Here's a thought... we put dual plug in pad heaters on our oil pans, singles on our trannies and diffs, and have battery blankets (AC powered / plug in). Maybe a DC powered pad could be placed / adhered to the bottom / sides of the fuel tank. Maybe a couple, you have a really big tank at 56 gallons. I have a 2000 Watt inverter installed on mine, maybe an AC heater pad hooked into that, if you want to install an inverter.

Yeah, -60 is tough on EVERYTHING. If your truck gets cold soaked at that temp, you can jump in the drivers seat and actually crack / break the leather. I tried to close the last flap on my radiator cover after driving 25 minutes into work, and in just that short amount of time the fabric got so cold and stiff that I broke it in two when I tried to close it. And that's after keeping it in the garage all night before leaving for work. The parasitic drag on the front diff is so great after a day at work that you have to put the truck in 4 wheel drive or your rear tires will spin on level ground while your fronts will drag just from the diff fluid being so cold. I use full synthethic and have the problem. My boss uses Ams-Oil and has the same problem. Only a heating pad on the diff will fix it. Lift the hood on our trucks and you will notice a power-strip slammed full of plugs that go to all of our various heating pads with a single cord hanging out the grill like a tongue. We have no parking meters up here, everything is a post in the ground with outlets attached to it, lining the streets. It's either that or keep it running while you shop, which most people do, anyway. Still, I wouldn't change it for the World!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Thanks Hooker, I'll look into that. If you've got any other ideas, I'd love to hear them!

Heater pads might be an easier thing to install than what I was considering.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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I don't run a FARS or AirHog; however, I've been running a GDP Walbro lift pump system for almost the same amount of time I've been using 2 stroke oil as a diesel additive. NPH, I don't know of anything diesel additive that will help down to -60+. I'll bet if you pee outside, the stream freezes before is hits the ground!!!!! The only way I know of is what has been posted already........fuel tank heaters etc. Even at that cold, you'll still have to almost totally insulate the engine compartment and fuel lines from the cold. Even at -20 here, it still takes almost 10 miles for my truck to get to operating temps with my home made cold front!!!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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We regularily see -30 to -40 (and colder temps) and I have more than enough trouble keeping a diesel running in those temps - I cant imagine how bad the battle is at -60. I would think a gas vehicle would be more appropriate in those temps.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
We regularily see -30 to -40 (and colder temps) and I have more than enough trouble keeping a diesel running in those temps - I cant imagine how bad the battle is at -60. I would think a gas vehicle would be more appropriate in those temps.
I was under the impression that on this site, a gas vehicle was NEVER appropriate!!!
 
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by North Pole Hooker
I was under the impression that on this site, a gas vehicle was NEVER appropriate!!!


I would have to "whole heartedly" agree with that statement!!!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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I've been running a 2-to-1 mix of WMO and 2STO in both an '07 commonrail and my 1st Gen at about a 60-to-1 fuel treat ratio for 2 years and counting...
 
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by North Pole Hooker
I was under the impression that on this site, a gas vehicle was NEVER appropriate!!!
Theres nothing wrong with a gas vehicle. Both of my trucks are diesel - but when the weather turns cold it doesnt take long for my thoughts to wander and think about getting a gas vehicle. Diesels are a purposed built vehicle and they have their place but for a daily driver - gas powered vehicles just make more sense for most people. These trucks arent cheap or easy to maintain either.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
Theres nothing wrong with a gas vehicle. Both of my trucks are diesel - but when the weather turns cold it doesnt take long for my thoughts to wander and think about getting a gas vehicle. Diesels are a purposed built vehicle and they have their place but for a daily driver - gas powered vehicles just make more sense for most people. These trucks arent cheap or easy to maintain either.
Diesel - it's the wave of the future. I'm sure that someone will figure out an ultra-low temperature diesel fuel or engine, capable of all of the power and fuel economy at -70F. Until then, I'll just deal with what I can get out of what I have.

I know it will be expensive, at first. But someday it WILL be cheap and easy. Trust me, I'm a Hooker. If there's one thing I know it's "cheap and easy"!
 
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