What about using new clean engine oil or the new/used oil blends they are selling? Iwas told the btu's of engine oil are more than diesel? More btu's MAYBE a little more power? Less noise? A little more mpg? How much is too much?

 

Just use 2-stroke oil if you're going to buy new oil. It's made to be burned and leave less deposits (ashless).

 

These are words from someone who burns used oil - NOT from some naysayer who doesn't know anything about it..................

I burn used oil in my 2000 Dodge and run my oil through THREE filters.

1 10 microns on the transfer pump.
2. 2 microns from my 75 gallon aux tank to the main tank on the truck.
3. And a 5 micron aftermarket screw-on filter (going to another 2 later) at the engine.

I buy Bio-Tek filters exclusively. There isn't a auto parts store out there that carries a 2 micron filter!!! Been there & tried that! If you want some bio-tek numbers give me a call at 815-973-8128.

NOW HEAR THIS!!! I was running 50% oil a couple weeks ago and the temperature dropped to 3 degrees outside. NOT a good idea to run 50% then!!! My lines gelled up and I had to put the truck in a friends garage for a few hours, then it fired right up.

But you CAN run 50% down to the low 20's and a little beyond that with no problems. This summer I'm going up to 70% and I might even go to 75% as I've heard of guys who ran 100%!!! With the used oil you'll notice a significant increase in power when you drop the hammer on it and the turbo spools up faster. As for smoke, the only time mine smokes is at COLD (20 degrees?) start-up and when I set my programmer to 120 hp and lean on the "go" peddle - otherwise you'd never know the oil is there, unless you deliberately smell the exhaust.

Everyone on that Cummins forum whined to me that the oil would diry up the injectors and a friend who owns a semi boneyard told me he knows another guy running oil who puts a can on Sea Foam in every tank of fuel. So now, I use Sea foam in every other tank or so just for giggles!

If you need some help setting the system up just give me a call and I'd be happy to help you. I DO have a pump for sale, that you can use to pump your used oil with!!

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ANOTHER naysayer? Wow! I think YOU should do some searching and see how small 2 microns is! When I was looking for filters at auto parts stores I learned that some regular diesel filters are only 30 microns!!!

If you find something smaller than 2 microns in a tank of used oil I want to know where it came from and what they did with the machine..........cause it AIN'T happenin'!

Think about this for a minute - if 2 microns is the measuring limit (as you say) why do you think that's so?

Bottom line - if you haven't tried it don't say it isn't possible. I HAVE, I do and it IS!!!!

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Using r/c fuel in ANYTHING other that a top/fueler is plain, flat boneheaded. READ THE CONTAINER!!! It contains up to 20% nitromethane!!!!!

When I was 20 I put about a cup of that rc fuel in my brand new 67 Triumph 650 motorcycle and fried a ole right through the piston - so go ahead and try it out and we'll be hearing from you here again!!!

The though of that is about as boneheaded as putting dynamite in your pot!!

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Great -now take them back where you got them because the oil is too heavy to go through them at any speed.

1 micron is NOT necessary and will only plug up faster and deter the oil from flowing.

Trust me - don't listen to anyone on this subject unless they've don it.

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Are you frikkin' serious?

You have the be the only guy in the USA that makes the decision whether or not to reduce your fuel costs, based on how your exhaust smells! Frankly, if I can run my truck for $1.65 a gallon I couldn't give a rats' azz what it smells like to anyone at a stop light!!!!

If you're only going to run 10% you might as well not do it because it won't pay for the cost of your pump(s) and filters!

 

i run a om 617 on straight wmo and the truck loves it. it is so quiet idleing most people think it is a gasser and it starts way easier on oil than diesel,during summer and winter. i have no loss in power and i honestly think it smokes less. the only problem ive had is i killed a lift pump around 0*f

 

Got no idea what a "om 617 is, but word has it here from a friend of mine who knows another guy who burns used oil, that he puts a can of Sea Foam in every tankful to keep the injectors clean and hasn't had a bit of problems with it.

I'm running 50% oil now with Sea Foam and plan on going up to 75% in the summer and probably will try 60%, now that the weather is staying above 45 degrees outside.

It's really comical that some of these naysayers will use that filthy vegetable oil in their engines, then cut you and me down for using oil that's actually been running through a filter all it's life!!! Kind of a no-brainer isn't it?!!!

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Putting it simply - there isn't a "too much". The only limiting factor is the ambient temperature. And you're right - oil has a higher Cetane than diesel, because there's more "oil" it. Once you run it you'll experience an instantaneous power increase and faster turbo spool...........but filter it to 2 microns first!!

I was running 50% oil on a 3 degree morning and it didn't fair very well! I had to park it in a friend's garage for about 4 hours and it fired right back up. I headed for a gas station and put 10 gallons of #2 in it and it was ok again.

So don't go to 50% if it's under 15 degrees outside, unless you add some Howes or Power Service to the fuel tank!!!

 

Thanks. I am in San Antonio. so while 15 degree in winter is not impossible, it is not very often. The truck has an aux tank of ~50 gal that I use for WMO mixes, and so far anyway, have left the factory tank for D2 which luckily I filled up a couple of weeks ago. I saw about $4.05 on the other side of town yesterday, but on my side (NW) it is mainly $3.85-3.89, although Wal Mart near me is still at $3.79 --as of a couple of hours ago anyway. I am going to run about 50/50 a while and pull an injector and check it. Maybe add some Seafoam, or Stanadyne treatment too. I really don't have a "reference point" on injector coking up. Both sets I saw on my two 6.2's had some 80/80 WMO/RUG run through them before I pulled them out. One had about 15 gal through it, but the injectors were in it when I bought it, and it never had any power(I bought it with a bad trans, so couldn't realy test drive it). A set of clean used injectors seemed to make a hugh difference. The other had a rebuilt set and about 40 gal of W80, and they were coked up pretty bad IMO. I just carefull scraped the carbon off , pop tested them and put them back. I am beginning to think 50/50 may be better in the long run. Pulling and cleaning the injectors is no real big job, but I think doing it every 600-700 miles is a bit much. Any advice on the best way to clean the injectors as well as keeping the clean will be appreciated. The tank of oil was burned in mainly town driving which included some freeway at about 60, some traffic etc.Maybe a long trip on the highway will make a difference also.

 

Got no idea what a W80, or IMO is because I only speak English, but like I said before my friend knows a farmer here who runs oil and he swears by the sea Foam.

As for cleaning the injectors I truly feel that if we find the right supplement (like Sea Foam?) the problem will be solved. You could always buy a 2nd set of goo, used injectors, so you'll always have a clean set, but frankly, I believe in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it.". I DO know that if we add a water injection setup that will do wonders to clean carbon in the combustion chamber, as Holley had one in the 60's that worked great.

My truck has a 53 block engine in it with just over 205,000 miles on it and I haven't had a bit of problems with it.

 

I think the 2 tank setup will work at any temp

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here are 3 items that I am thinking would work to keep the aux wmo tank warm and the engine

5-12V DC Micro Brushless Magnetic Pump High TEMP 100

Solar Power Water Pump Garden Pond Fountain Panel 12V | eBay

EZ 101 Portable Tankless Water Heater for Propane LPG Outdoor Shower RV Camp | eBay

put this in the line for keeping the water warm and circulated would have to have a temp probe in water to turn it all on

 

strange, my dually had 50% + oil in it and on a 5 degree morning it started just fine. mainly it all depends on the weight of WMO your using. i run 15-40 mix and it does just fine. a buddy of mine is running 85% right now. smokes like a mother though. the main thing is if you filter it good then it works really good. i filter to 1 micron using a house filter. it works really good

 

MY mechanic buddy has been running super filtered used oil for a year and now his low mile 12V is burning engine oil. He is upset and 2 flushes and switching to synthetic hasn't helped. He regrets doing it!