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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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ive heard that if you put a 5lb bag of sugar in your tank it will give you large amounts of horsepower
no but seriously
it doesent work and for the guy that ran 90%, even if it did work how cost effective would that be? ATF is not cheap. 5$ a quart thats 20$ a gallon X a 35 Gallon tank
 
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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I may have said it already but it has been a while. ATF is designed to have a high flash temperiture. It has properties that help it to lubricate hard parts and reduce heat generated from friction. It also has other additives to make it thin when warm so that it will move out of the way of the bands and clutches to that they dont slip. That simply means that it takes more energy to burn which means less is produced from the rest of the fuel because of entropy or enthrolpy, not sure which. It also means that it isnt designed as a fuel lubricant, instead it is almost the opposite. 2 stroke oil is disigned to be a fuel lubricant, that will burn, and clean at that. My opinion, dont use atf in fuel, even if it is free.

on a similar note, ever notice how different manufacturers have different atf requirements? That is because the bonding meterials are sensetive to certian additives and putting say mercon v in a honda auto can destroy the bands and it will be metal on metal. The oil seals on turbochargers are very sensetive to Brake cleaner and the seals will harden and eventually leak much sooner then normal.
 
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RMS 02
...it isnt designed as a fuel lubricant, instead it is almost the opposite. 2 stroke oil is disigned to be a fuel lubricant, ...
They are both lubricants and in terms of the general class of petroleum products they belong to they are more similar than different. Neither is being used as a fuel in this application. They are being used as a fuel additive to increase lubricity.
Originally Posted by RMS 02
...ever notice how different manufacturers have different atf requirements?
It's not because they are worried somebody may be burning highly diluted amounts as a fuel additive in diesel engines, that's for sure.
 
Old Mar 16, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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i dont know about you guys but my diesel wouldnt start at -10 unless i had antigel in her, cranked over real slow too, wonder why?
 
Old Mar 17, 2011 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NadirPoint
They are both lubricants and in terms of the general class of petroleum products they belong to they are more similar than different. Neither is being used as a fuel in this application. They are being used as a fuel additive to increase lubricity.

It's not because they are worried somebody may be burning highly diluted amounts as a fuel additive in diesel engines, that's for sure.
petroleum products includes anything from a petroleum base, you have petroleum based fuels, lubricants and even paint, does that mean i can put that rare petroleum based pain in my tank and run it? Its used for waterproofing, like tar.

Engineers came up with these formulas over many years because they found a recipe that works for them. All i was saying is that by adding chemicals not intended for use as a fuel lubricant you run the risk of premature failure at seals.
 
Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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fuel tax?
 

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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:23 AM
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are we really still talking about this? how long are we gonna beat this to death?
 
Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by muddyold7.3
fuel tax?

Sorry, thats a weak *** statement\
 

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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:59 AM
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Yep your correct, this is done until further notice and will be cleaned up. Def out of bounds on this one muddy...
 
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