There is the possibility to use Bio-D in the main tank for the heat up period and then switching to SVO also, then there is no "dirty petro diesel" being used.
I have an email from one of the injector specialist at Swamps diesel and basically what i was asking him was how many injector failures he has seen from people using SVO. His answer was "none". He went on to add that he has seen bio-D brewers ruin injectors from maybe not getting the sodium hydroxid out when washing it or whatever. He has seen multiple injuctors "etched" away till they were garbage from this.
Now that is not to say that will happen to all bio-D users, just the ones that don't get the mix right or properly wash it. A bad batch of Bio-D can and will destroy your IP and injectors Murph. And thats not opinion or speculation, thats from a man who sees it happen in his business of building injectors.
So there is risk with Bio-D if you get a bad batch. There is NO possibility of gtting a bad batch of WVO unless its water laden of course and my Donaldson filter will catch that before my injectors do.
I have nothing against Bio-D, in fact i would use it from the pump if i could find it in my area but i can't.

 

At that point, why even bother? Just use the biodiesel all the time!

Why would he see any?? If someone ruins their fuel system running SVO, they don't run back to the manufacturer asking for a warrante or anything like that.. Maybe I'm missing something but that doesnt make sense to me.

Just like I said above.. All biodiesel failures are the result of someone not making the stuff correctly.


There is no significant chance of getting a bad batch of biodiesel if you follow the proper procedures. Biodiesel is so easy to make its not even funny.. Its as easy as cooking bacon and eggs for breakfast.. And yes, if you eat raw bacon or eggs and you didnt cook it properly, you can get food poisoning.

In addition to that, because biodiesel does require a bit of chemistry to perform the operation, we home-brewers have been made aware that some restaurants dump their fryer cleaners into their waste oil collection containers. Biodieselers see this because it can show up in our quality control and/or titration testing. Some of these fryer cleaners are based on an acid formula (boil outs) and some are based on regular high strength industrial cleaners that are rated for food grade. And, guess what, they contain hydroxides (sodium or potassium).. Since you never test, you'll never know its there and you run and even bigger risk.

In addition, a single bad or improperly made batch of biodiesel WILL NOT ruin your engine. However, if you constantly make it incorrectly than I agree.. it can damage things.. On the other hand, the same risk is there with regular diesel fuel and SVO also.



So make it yourself! So easy "even a caveman can do it!!"


There are just to many problems and restrictions with running SVO.. I have a farm tracktor, several trucks, a stump grinder, a wood chipper and several other engines running biodiesel (and that's just me not my customers).. Its not practical to convert all that to SVO systems and I would certainly not risk it with a $40,000 truck.. No way..

 

okay, you talked me into it, i'll switch tomorrow.

 

There are good and bad points about both. But ya know what, no matter which one ya use your a winner in my book.

 

Now that was funny....

 

Why wont my sig post to messages?

I got it to work once.. wont work anymore..

Funny.. now it works again.

 

It only shows in your first posting on each Page. We, as well as most other boards like this found out that it just takes up to much space on the server and makes it a pain through scroll through postings when the signature shows up in every post. They just get to long.

 

Ok You are selling a myth here now! I use WVO and BIO what ever I can get my hands on.

BUT, Unless you are running b100 you are using dirty diesel also.

AND, If you are using b100 it is not approved by anybody. Only up b20 is approved and that is 80% dirty diesel.

I dont want to make you mad but they are both good and are both perfectly fine when done right.

 

I've kicked both of them around for a long time...

I like the concept of SVO conversion because it is more friendly to long trips; it seems eaisier to make a portable filter for veggie than a portable processor for biodiesel.

And I also like the concept of using the SVO system to burn #6 Diesel.

 

I'm selling a myth?

What do you mean? What myth?

Most people who make biodiesel use ONLY biodiesel.. There are a few exceptions here and there but for the most part, we just run B100 all the time..

Do you know why B100 isnt approved by anyone? It has nothing to do with the fuel or its compatability with engine design components.. Its politics.. In simplist terms, Nox emissions go up a bit with pure B100.. Its the only emission that does go up.. The EPA (environmental protection agency) holds the engine manufacturers responsible for emissions.. NOT the fuel manufacturers.. Because the manufacturers have not installed Nox emission controls yet, they can't recommend a higher concentration for fear of going over it the emissions limits.
(Tell me big oil doesnt have something to do with that!!) Ok. I might be wrong on that one..

Also, when running blends as low as B10, it has been proven that ALL emissions are decreased. In fact, if I remember the numbers correctly, a b20 blend did better than the ULSD does.. And FAR better on Co2 emissions.(but the co2 is an obvious one)..

You're not making me mad at all.. I like good points and if there is an equal or better way, I want know about it and would most likey get involved..

I'm no combustion expert but I know how glycerin burns and I know its characteristics... I would not dare put that in my engine and I certainly dont see anyone approving any percentage of veg oil..
My own stupid little experiments tell me the same story.. Biodiesel burns clean.. WVO leaves residue behind.

I'll say this however,, one good point.. Running on WVO part time while using BioDiesel the other part.. Some computer control to make sure the valve switches over 25%wvo/75%bio automatically or something. My experiments have shown that biodiesel will actually help clean up the WVO residue..

Of course, if your going to run the bio, why bother going to extra expense of adding the WVO package?