Alternative Fuels , Additives , Fluids Diesel Fuel, Off Road Diesel Fuel , Bio Diesel , Synthetics , Oils , Lubes , Fuel Additives , Emulsifiers , Demulsifiers , All Alternative Fuels , Additives and Fluids

WVO Or Bio-D

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 05-23-2007, 09:05 AM
CHenry's Avatar
Vegistrokin Bombardier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,705
Received 121 Likes on 77 Posts
Default WVO Or Bio-D

With the fuel prices on the steady rise again, was wondering if anyone was giving more thought to a two tank WVO conversion like mine or brewing Bio-D. Got any questions or discussion about it, post it up and we'll get some information flowing!
 
  #2  
Old 05-26-2007, 01:09 PM
Murphy2000's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Running straight vegetable oil (SVO) is a huge risk with the newer diesel engines found in most new cars and trucks.

Biodiesel is approved by the US Department of Energy as a "direct alternative to regular diesel fuel"

Vegetable oil is approved as only food.

There are good reasons for this.

It's not hard to make your own biodiesel and it wont ruin your engine. In fact, most diesel engine manufacturers now approve its use.

If anyone here has any questions about biodiesel, or needs help, let me know.. I'll be glad to do whatever I can.

Can I post a link to my website here?
 
  #3  
Old 05-28-2007, 11:17 PM
CHenry's Avatar
Vegistrokin Bombardier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,705
Received 121 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

Yes you can but also do please back up what you said here with facts.
Vegi oil will hurt your engine? Explain that with something besides opinion.
 
  #4  
Old 05-28-2007, 11:34 PM
ndurbin's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lake City, KS
Posts: 570
Received 63 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

How could it hurt anything when it makes your exhaust smell like french fires?

The only drawback to running WVO over Biodiesel is needing a two tank system to heat the vegi oil. Dumping straight cooking oil or WVO into your tank and not heating it can cause some problems.
 
  #5  
Old 05-29-2007, 09:16 AM
CHenry's Avatar
Vegistrokin Bombardier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,705
Received 121 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ndurbin
The only drawback to running WVO over Biodiesel is needing a two tank system to heat the vegi oil. Dumping straight cooking oil or WVO into your tank and not heating it can cause some problems.
That is true of Vegi oil straight, but not of bio-D. Bio needs no heat, vegi needs 180* f to drop the viscosity to the same as diesel fuel.
You hit the nail on the head nate.
 
  #6  
Old 05-29-2007, 10:18 PM
Carl's Avatar
Diesel Fan
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lansing, MI
Posts: 47
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

So how do I decide which one would be right for my application?

Reliability in all condtions is first priority for me.
Space needed to make it is not too much of a concern.
Looking for around 500 RWHP

I wouldn't think so, but could I run into any problems running these alternative fuels through a diesel fueled heater, like the Espar heaters?
 
  #7  
Old 05-29-2007, 10:35 PM
ndurbin's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lake City, KS
Posts: 570
Received 63 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

The main thing with WVO is filtration and getting a good source for the oil. Ya really cain't make biodiesel yourself as you have to get raw soybean oil or another type, process it, and then blend it with diesel fuel.

Both are going to hurt you compaired to conventional diesel as they have a lower centane rating. But nothing that is going to be that big in the scheme of things.
 
  #8  
Old 05-29-2007, 10:43 PM
CHenry's Avatar
Vegistrokin Bombardier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,705
Received 121 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ndurbin
The main thing with WVO is filtration and getting a good source for the oil. Ya really cain't make biodiesel yourself as you have to get raw soybean oil or another type, process it, and then blend it with diesel fuel.

Both are going to hurt you compaired to conventional diesel as they have a lower centane rating. But nothing that is going to be that big in the scheme of things.
Straight Bio-D is not blended with diesel at all.
Straight vegi will give you "almost" the same hp rating as diesel with a little lower mpg rating but not a noticeable hp difference.
I reccomend the straght vegi oil conversion kit as apposed to biodiesel for cost, ease of use and overall reliability.
I can explain this more if you have more questions so feel free to ask.
 
  #9  
Old 05-29-2007, 11:14 PM
ndurbin's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lake City, KS
Posts: 570
Received 63 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

True it doesn't have to be blended, thats just whats common I guess. Don't see many B100 pumps.
 
  #10  
Old 05-30-2007, 07:48 AM
CHenry's Avatar
Vegistrokin Bombardier
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,705
Received 121 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ndurbin
True it doesn't have to be blended, thats just whats common I guess. Don't see many B100 pumps.
Yes, your right, B10 or B20 is more common at the pump i guess. Of course here in Oklahoma, there are no Bio-D pumps at all.
People who make there own i think use is straight i think.
 


Quick Reply: WVO Or Bio-D



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 PM.