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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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See, like I said higher cetain levels, LESS MPG, LESS LUBE, so it's not making any extra performance, not cleaning sh*T, and doesn't make the fuel any better that what it is!! Ask me anything u want to know bout fuel!! I got 2 or 3 Chapters all about it!! Doesn't say anything about excessive and 5% is nothing but why put dirty a$$ oil in your nice clean fuel!! Please help me understand guys??
 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:51 AM
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Maybe you're just confused about the subject of this thread?

5% of a 30-gallon tank would be 1.5 gallons or about a 28-to-1 ratio. Typical add rates are 1/10th of that. I run 60-to-1.

Ever heard of the Centinel system?
 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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See, like I said higher cetain levels, LESS MPG, LESS LUBE, so it's not making any extra performance, not cleaning sh*T, and doesn't make the fuel any better that what it is!! Ask me anything u want to know bout fuel!! I got 2 or 3 Chapters all about it!!
I think you need to go back and really understand what your saying. cetane is what you mean. here is some info for you on it. Cetane number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Just because you read a few chapters doesn't make you any where near an expert. What I get from that article is the simple fact that you can raise the cetane level to 55 for maximum efficiency. US fuel has a cetane ranging from 42-45 so yes adding cetane will help. So yes you are making the fuel better. The additive will help to clean deposits left behind. I run a fass system with a 2micron filter so I am not really worried about particles, but more on the lubricity of the fuel. and from that table I posted back I do know that 2 stroke oil and amsoil diesel fuel concentrate does help in that aspect. And this was an independent lab test. My truck doesn't smoke blue, or white. It will blow a cloud of black if I am not careful, but thats to be expected with the injectors I am running.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:29 AM
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I have also herd from old school techs a diesel engine will run off straight engine oil!! Possible run-away can occur when this happens, also dinosaurs cummins can run on some nasty old fuel and almost anything else u can put in there, like L10's!!

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Believe what you want brotha!! I am by no means an expert and NO ONE here is!!! Burning fuel with high cetane can cause the injectors to run hotter, so if that is cleaning then ok!! I'm just sharing what I learned so put what you want to in your trucks but not best idea to be recommending ppl do these things, may cause damage to some1's truck and its DEFF NOT RECOMMENDED BY OEM Besides I'm not against all of the additives , I use PS in my truck once in awhile too, helps keep fuel tanks stabilized, extra lube, de-gel, all that but decrease my mpg and doesnt make it burn cleaner just hotter, can make your eyes water when u smell it!! Have fun burning dirty fuel!!!!

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Why go cheap way out and use 2-stroke and dirty oil?? Our cummins engines aren't cheap now a days!! Buy a product recommended for diesel fuel or as and additive, read bottle of 2-stroke doesn't say add to diesel fuel, says gasoline!!!

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I don't really want to understand this thread. Putting 2-stroke in your diesel truck is just stupid...sorry!! Have fun, I'm going to try to learn something important, and hopefully get to speak with some real technicians!! Thanx guys!!
 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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The day everyone lines up to buy the book and listen to the seminar on diesel fuel technology from a wet-behind-the-ears just graduated from diesel tech brainwashing school who can't spell will be the day I stop burning lubricity adds in my trucks.

Until then, experience talks, B_llsh_t walks.

You should take your own advice and stick the the "learning" part of your avatar status for awhile.
 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Brainwashing school?? WOW you are really a d*mb f*ck... I don't care about spelling sense I'm a tech not english teacher, and you have experience with OLD trucks, like yourself!!! They have schools for a reason not to teach ppl to do things the wrong way!! Take your own advice and buy a book you illiterate, I learned from ppl who have waaay more experience than you, as it seems!! Can't believe they allow ppl to post b.s that makes no sense!!! What is this mypace for ppl who think they know diesels?? Truth hurts man and you cant admit your wrong. Have fun wasting your money, by looks of your truck you don't have much!!

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I'm still wondering and waiting to hear an explanation on how 2-stroke or used oil helps?? Some1 show me a site or oem book, you told me to show proof, I did, and your still running out the mouth about experience!! Like you said, I don't know you for jack, lets see proof, not you saying how well it works!!! If it's such a great idea to use it why don't they put it on the bottle, or why isn't it in your owners manual?? Sounds more like some backyard mechanic and hillbilly rumors!!!
 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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I don't see the need to bash a guy like you just did...everyone has their own way. As the saying goes, "there's more than one way to skin a cat.". DonnyK....spelling may not mean much to you but, if you are trying to prove a point and look dignified and not like a dolt spouting off......brush up. Remember, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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I'm not bashing any1 guys, but when you are saying diesel schools are b.s you must be an illiterate!! They don't have programs to train ppl to do the wrong things. (maybe in your world) I just want some proof where it's stated it's ok to run 2-stroke and used oils. I want to see an OEM or manufacture thats says to use it as an additive? PLEASE??? I never said I knew more than anybody here nor did I jump down any1's throat until I got it first. I proved my point and I'm just waiting to see the truth!! ANYBODY!!!!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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there is a link somewhere on this forum that provides proof that 2 stroke is benefitial......but the used oil was actually harmful. Not my research nor do I have a "side", just some research I've read here a while back.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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I have been googling it and looking everywhere!!! There is no OEM or manufacture that recommends it. All I can find is other forums of ppl like us debating the issue. Call a dealer and ask them there thoughts, but be prepared to get laughed at!! Does any1 here know the diff between a diesel engine and 2-stroke diesel engine?? THEY DON'T EVEN USE 2-STROKE OIL!!! LOL it's just they way the design is to increase hp!!!
Hey Captain, how much snow you guys get over there and hows the dodge handling it??

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over all it's been a fun debate..I'm not criticizing anyone, so please fella's do as u please!! I'm just saying it's not a recommendation to run 2-stroke as an additive so don't take advice from others to do soo.. keep it in your own truck!! KEEP TRUCKING!!!
 

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