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High performance 140v IDM? Worthwhile?

Old Apr 2, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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I was talking to a pretty neat character on this forum, and was wondering some about this 140v IDM. Is it worthwhile to do? All I plan on doing to the truck are intake/exhaust/tuner. I am doing just enough mods so that I dont have to touch my tranny; I dont want to drop money into that.

How kind of power/economy increases will come with installing a good IDM w/ the intake/exhaust/tuner?

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 02:17 AM
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Do you know how to solder? If you can solder well, this is a cheap thing to do. If you mess up your IDM, you will have to buy a used one or a new one, either way they aren't cheap...

You will see no power/economy increases from the IDM mod... Some people say it will give you a crisp throttle response, others say the idle is smoother...

IMO, just do an exhaust, intake, GAUGES, and chip... Then drive it.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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I am looking to get the Swamps IDM in the next few months, Its a bit different then the typical modded IDM.

140v IDM = 10k mod

Swamps high frequency high power IDM = Custom tuned Chip...

Just a comparison.

But James is right, you will not see any jump in HP, just a bit more crispness in the way it runs.
 
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Yes I can solder but I doubt I'd risk ruining anything.

I've read online that a 140v IDM can give 30-40hp and like 50-60lbs of tq... I've even come across a dyno with a verified like 30 or 40lbs of tq to the WHEELS using a better IDM.



Joe- I was thinking about the Swamps unit or the Beans unit. Like I said above, there are dynos out proving higher hp/tq using a better IDM tho
 

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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Yes I can solder but I doubt I'd risk ruining anything.

I've read online that a 140v IDM can give 30-40hp and like 50-60lbs of tq... I've even come across a dyno with a verified like 30 or 40lbs of tq to the WHEELS using a better IDM.



Joe- I was thinking about the Swamps unit or the Beans unit. Like I said above, there are dynos out proving higher hp/tq using a better IDM tho


I have NEVER seen an IDM mod give anything more then a few hp... I would be very suspect of someone claiming anything more then that.

Swamps is the only company that does the IDM tuning, NO one else does. So make sure your comparing apples to apples, not apples to raisins. LOL

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If you were to take a 110v IDM out of a OBS, and swap in a modded IDM, I could see picking up 20-40# tq... But it would have to come with other mods at the same time.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Beans Diesel Performance - 7.3 Power Stroke IDM Modification (Powered by CubeCart)

Advertised as 30hp by a very reputable Diesel tuner.

Also, check the dyno slips in this write-up:
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/servo/tips/atips.html


I've heard from a LOT of people that they've noticed a huge seat of the pants performance increase, and that when they've gone back to a stock IDM they can tell the difference.


But on a side note, I'm def more of an apple fan over raisins
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 85_305
Beans Diesel Performance - 7.3 Power Stroke IDM Modification (Powered by CubeCart)

Advertised as 30hp by a very reputable Diesel tuner.

Also, check the dyno slips in this write-up:
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/servo/tips/atips.html


I've heard from a LOT of people that they've noticed a huge seat of the pants performance increase, and that when they've gone back to a stock IDM they can tell the difference.


But on a side note, I'm def more of an apple fan over raisins
Again... Going from a 110v OBS IDM to a 140V SD IDM then I could see picking up MAYBE 15 hp... Not buying 30hp, sorry just not happening.

And again, the Beans IDM is just a resistor mod, it is NOT a tuned IDM like the Swamps unit is.

Nothing wrong with the Beans unit, but it is not a tuned IDM.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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I dont know man, I'm seeing some pretty positive results from it. I wish I could see more dyno results though...
 
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Here's the resistors you want... Unhook your batts, take your IDM out, pop the top. Look at the small workspace you got to work in and then decide if its something you can do... I had the resistors in my hand, I had the IDM apart and decided not to do it for the minimal gain I would maybe see... Just my .02 but it would be cool if you did it and took some pictures and did a little write up so we can have it here on the site for other members...

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^Thanks for the link and advice! I'm gonna do more research and see what I come up with first
 
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