Thats YOUR OPINION, and you can set the amount of defueling on the Quad. The defueling is there to save the tranny. With the Quad you get a Lot MORE for the money spent.I personaly do not like FLASH Tuners-SCT.

 

We can all disagree all we want, in the end not everyone will listen to advice given and that's ok. If the quad works for you that is great, but it simply isn't as good as an SCT. The quadzilla will never access the TCM like the SCT can and tune the trans to go with the tunes. You say custom tunes, can you point me to a single tuner who works with the quadzillas? I think you said they send you the software and let you do it yourself? And you're confident you can write your own custom tune? Seems like if it was that easy far less people would be paying money to guys like Eric at Innovative or Matt at Gearhead for custom tunes for their SCT's.

I'm pretty sure the SCT livewire does the exact same thing you say the quad adrenaline does. Oh and the SCT has actual custom tunes, and a following of dealers behind it who write tunes.

We are not trying to bully anyone into anything, at the end of the day it is his/hers money to spend on whatever tuner they choose. They come here asking for advice, we give it, what they do with it is up to them. A lot of guys running SCT's already made the mistake of buying something else first, then ending up with an SCT in the end. What they're doing here is trying to save a fellow diesel enthusiast from wasting money on an inferior product.

I hope you don't plan on adding larger injectors or a bigger turbo down the road at all, because then you'll have to buy the SCT. Can the Quadzilla turn the EGR function off so if you do an egr delete the check engine light doesn't come on?

I guess it makes us know it all's when someone asks a question and we give them answers based on facts and knowledge as opposed to a dyno graph that a company can't even provide you...

You can argue this til your blue in the face, but the quad simply doesn't offer as much as the SCT.

 

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Why ?. My Quad gives me the power I need and all the gauges to monitor every thing for less. I pull a 34' trailer in the mountains of PA with no problems. Not every body agrees with your choice, It's up to the purchaser what he want's to spend his money on.

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It's you money, don't let these guys bully you into buying some thing else. Due the resurch and decide. I've had the Quad Adrenalin for 2 years with no problems and I can monitor all stats from one screen and change to custom tunes with no aditional purchase. I have taken it to the shop and only unhooked the OBDII port and they didn't find anything (that would void the warrenty) I'm not telling you which one to buy, it's your money. I just get tired of these no it alls and there preachin.




You sir are correct, it is your money, do the research. Go on all the forums and ask your questions and the majority of Ford guys will steer you to the SCT with custom tunes, not all just the know it all preachy types. There will always be a guy that swears by his Edge, Bully Dog, Diablo, PPE, Quadzilla or some other supertuner that his buddy with a Dodge said was awesome. Call the vendor selling you any given product with a claimed hp and ask for a dyno sheet, they should gladly send you a copy. Go on the Youtube and search for Quadzilla, you will probably find a bunch of Dodge clips as it is a popular tuner for those trucks. Search SCT and you will see dyno runs and 1/4 mile runs with results you can see. Take all the input and spend your money. I hope whatever you choose works for you.
I think the OP went with SCT, maybe he will chime in on this dead thread brought back to life.

 

Still waiting for that quadzilla dyno sheet...

I could come on here and say my SCT gave me 300+ rwhp, but if I don't have a dyno sheet to back it up, what good is it?



The funniest part of that entire post: under NO circumstance will you ever have any truck reliability issues even if the worst case scenario presents itself!

The only way this could be true is if it was VERY low power improvement. A quadzilla on a medium power setting will do more damage than an SCT on your highest race tune from a tuner. How can they even say this? Stock trucks have tons of problems so tuning is only going to make it worse!

And I still don't see anything the quadzilla can do that you can't do with an SCT livewire...

Out of curiosity I wonder what you have to purchase to be able to do your own tuning with the quadzilla. That kind of interests me. I suppose you could do your own tuning on an SCT too if you purchase the software, but why not leave it to the professionals?

 

You don't have to purchase any thing to be able to do your own tunes. You used to have to purchase a unlock code, but not any more. The tuning is very easy, there tech dept. sent via email the parameters and what to change for differant power levels, even what you need to change to blow smoke. As for damage, Iv'e been running for two years on all power levels with no problems.That includes going in town and laying a smack down on Dodges and Chevys.My next improvement is going to be ladder bars.

 

Thanks for the info. The only thing that still gets me is how they're flat out lying to you and wont provide you with dyno sheets, but whatever, guess as long as you're happy that's all that matters. There is physically no way to get the power levels out of a truck like they're claiming with stock fuel system. No way no how.

If tuning was very easy, everyone would be doing it though...

Is there any info on how to change transmission settings? I'm still fairly certain it can't access the TCM like the SCT's can.

 

this thread is kinda dumb i have a dodge and here's the way I see it, get a Smarty if you have a 5.9, H&S if you have a 6.7, SCT if you have a 6.0 with custom tunes, EFI Live if you have a Duramax, and the rest no one really cares about, they only exist to provide upgrades to the people that don't do their research and maybe don't want the extreme horsepower, or they want the fancy monitor, and I think SCT offers what's called a livewire which i know will blow the doors off any of the others out there, so arguing about this is redundant custom tunes don't even compare to "canned" tunes that places like quad, edge, bullydog, etc come up with

 

Exactly, but again not everyone is looking for the "most horsepower" available and yes Banks and the other "stuff" will work for some guys. Not everyone is like us, and it's taken me a long time to realize this as well. Guys come on here and ask questions, we can give answers based off of our knowledge but it all boils down to what they want to spen their money on, and who are we to say what is right or wrong for them. Maybe someone just likes the way the bullydog sticker looks on their truck, or the way the quadzilla name sounds!? We may never get it, but we don't have to. Just give the info and what they choose to do with it is up to them!

Most of us know and use SCT with custom tuning. That's all there is to it. You want something else, don't say we didn't warn you.

 

I have my truck stock, I never spend any money on my vehicles that I don't need to spend.
I bought a ScangaugeII for keeping and eye on all the truck monitoring that the idiote gauges never gave me.
I bought the E-Con by Hypertech to give me enough power to keep my truck on 6th gear (Standard Tranny) while towing because I was loosing speed in the hills with my 15K lbs trailer in tow.

I gained 40% more torque with the E-Con and in 3 years I have not seen any temperture rise to give me any reason to keep my EGT Gauge. I use it only to indicate the shut down temperature while towing.

When people ask me for info on the bad things about our 6.0"s I just tell them to get scangaugeII for $159 and if they need more power or eliminated the 3MPG Ford flash, to get an E-Con programer for $329 and then Flush out the Gold junk that Ford calls a coolant.

My ScangaugeII has paid for itself many time and also paid for the E-Con. If I was paid everytime I use it on other vehicles I would have paid it much faster. But my friends are so impressed that they find a way to get one to.