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Old 05-31-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
A lot of guys use it, but more for a mileage helper than a power adder. Most that I have seen using it are using a low concentration of meth, around 20-30% meth. It's a good EGT dropper with that much water. I thought about getting it myself, but it seems more of a novelty to me. I don't have issues with EGT's now when towing (as long as I am using my tow tunes and not my race tunes ) so really no point for me to add it.
I don't normally have issues with EGTs either. I was thinking more on the lines for mileage till I get studs put in then bumping up the amout of meth for more power. Now that its getting hotter out and my intake temps are up I'm noticing my cruise egts on the highway are quite a bit higher. I think I'm going to switch back to the stock airbox and see what happens. I know I noticed the inlet temps go up when I installed the AFE. With the stock box they were always close to outside temp, now its normally 30 to 50 degrees warmer and at 70 on the highway my egts have been about 80 degrees warmer.
 
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Originally Posted by FRIDAY88
What about the Quadzilla Adrenaline?? anyone got any input there I Realize sct is the sh*t for the 6.0L but what if I dont wanna go a tuner rout??
Iv'e been running the Quadzilla Adrenalin for 2 years, best mpg is on level 2 or 3. The advantage to the Adrenalin is that you can set up your own custom tunes. I contacted there tech dept. and they emailed me the parameters to change and what efect they had on performance. They had about 10 tunes for differant gains, even a smoke tune.

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Originally Posted by Mdub707
I've heard of people doing this with the Edge's too, which is OK if you have the SCT tranny tuning, but this was for guys who had already purchased the Edge or whatever before they found out about the SCT's, I wouldn't go out and buy an SCT AND a Quadzilla... that would be a waste of money.

What tune and from who on the SCT were you using that you're comparing to the quad?

Also for inquiring minds, SCT is one of the only programmers who uses rear wheel HP, most of the others use crank, so the numbers might seem better, but they're not, especially once you start getting into custom tunes with the SCT.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cstem
Iv'e been running the Quadzilla Adrenalin for 2 years, best mpg is on level 2 or 3. The advantage to the Adrenalin is that you can set up your own custom tunes. I contacted there tech dept. and they emailed me the parameters to change and what efect they had on performance. They had about 10 tunes for differant gains, even a smoke tune.



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The Quad uses RWHP, read there data. up to a 200 RWHP gain with there software update.

There is NO WAY you are getting 200+rwhp on top of stock, it's simply not possible on the stock fuel system. 420-430 rwhp is the max output of a 6.0 with custom tunes from SCT. If you have a dyno graph to prove higher, feel free to post it. I have a dyno sheet for my truck making 466rwhp with nothing more than Erics Race tune. I don't even believe it. It's been proven time and time again, 420-430 is max for the stock fuel system.

Quadzilla is blowing smoke up your a$$. I'd run a quadzilla equipped truck any day of the week.
 
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
There is NO WAY you are getting 200+rwhp on top of stock, it's simply not possible on the stock fuel system. 420-430 rwhp is the max output of a 6.0 with custom tunes from SCT. If you have a dyno graph to prove higher, feel free to post it. I have a dyno sheet for my truck making 466rwhp with nothing more than Erics Race tune. I don't even believe it. It's been proven time and time again, 420-430 is max for the stock fuel system.

Quadzilla is blowing smoke up your a$$. I'd run a quadzilla equipped truck any day of the week.
I'm saying that is there claim. I haven't had it dynoed to find out. Thats what there add says.
 
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:14 PM
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Dont waste your money on the dyno cause you're going to be very disappointed, that's all I'm saying.
 
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
Dont waste your money on the dyno cause you're going to be very disappointed, that's all I'm saying.
Do you have the info to prove other wise, I dout it.You guys just can't take because some body uses some thing differant from you. I personaly don't like Flash tuners-SCT. I think if would try some thing else it would be a Banks Six Gun, they have been there from the beginning and are very help full.
 
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I don't need to prove anything I already know which one wins this battle. I have dyno graphs from my own truck with a custom tuned SCT installed. You have already said you do not have dyno runs. I would be interested to see your dyno runs. I'm not arguing anything here, the facts are the facts, the SCT can do more, simply put, and is safer for your truck. That's all there is to it.

If the quad works for you, great, but when someone comes on here asking what the best programmer is to buy, I'm going to tell them straight up it's the SCT. No questions asked, it is proven to be the best, for power, for reliability, for custom tuning following. Nothing else compares.

If you choose to buy something else, fine, it doesn't bother me one bit.

You don't like flash tunes? HAHA that's a good one. If it isn't flashing like the SCT, then it's not even a real programmer, it's just plugged in and sending false signals to the PCM to trick it into more timing and more fuel, which is NOT a good way to do it.

Oh and you'd like to try the Banks after huh? I have read about some SCT users putting banks stickers on their truck to make it into a "sleeper". Banks is more money and less power. Sounds like a winning combo. Not to mention if you've been on any of the other boards and seen how the Banks crew handles themselves, I wouldn't purchase a single thing from them.

It is what it is man. I have dyno's and there are plenty of other posted dyno runs for custom tuned SCT's, you have none. If it works for you great, but don't come in here knocking a superior product when your knowledge on the subject is clearly lacking. If you put it on a dyno and put down higher numbers than me, I will not say another word about it, but until then....
 
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I trust Hypertech with their testing and for the 6.0L they only program to 114Hp.

Anything more is programing to kill.
 
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Originally Posted by caissiel
I trust Hypertech with their testing and for the 6.0L they only program to 114Hp.

Anything more is programing to kill.
Again, lets see the dyno sheet or track times to prove the power rating.

Who are you to say anymore is programming to kill? I know guys personally who are running the highest level of programming available for stock turbo and stock injectors (Eric's X-race tunes) daily with stock head bolts and not having a single issue.

Papachuck is one of those guys, maybe he'll chime in here...
 
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Originally Posted by Mdub707
Again, lets see the dyno sheet or track times to prove the power rating.

Who are you to say anymore is programming to kill? I know guys personally who are running the highest level of programming available for stock turbo and stock injectors (Eric's X-race tunes) daily with stock head bolts and not having a single issue.

Papachuck is one of those guys, maybe he'll chime in here...
I have run X-street and X-race for about a year now on stock bolts with no problems. Just had a friend of a friend thats a local ford diesel tech run my truck through all the checks they use to check for head gaskets and everything came out fine. Just sold my dodge so the 6.0 should be studded, powermax turbo, and maybe some nitrous or water/meth by spring. What the hell fun is only tuning to 114 hp anyway?

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I trust Hypertech with their testing and for the 6.0L they only program to 114Hp.

Anything more is programing to kill.
I bet you Eric from Innovative or any of the other top tuners have done a lot more testing than Hypertech to know what works and doesn't on a 6.0. Hypertech is still just generic tuning like anything else thats not custom.
 

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