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Old 02-20-2011, 08:48 PM
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I cant help but post fast....The walls are closing in , seriously though I have enjoyed being able to spend all my time at home with the baby

My main concern for this fella was from a daily driving and safety aspect. I did alot of things to my trucks that I would never consider doing to a customers truck. For all those years I wondered why so many techs say stay factory (not that I agree with that either) but after running my shop for the past years and dealing with customers I understand. There's so much liability involved and small problems turn into massive ones with big changes, and that leaves someone to straighten it out. I can say I understand there perspective now so I may seem "short" or "harsh" (haha to say the least) but I've got a clearer picture of why they say that.

Let's just say after seeing some 24 volt trucks come in that the owner had wired....I push owners to leave their trucks factory and let the shops make needed changes to improve durability, power, mileage and driveability.
So many folks get started in a project, get in over their head, bring it to me or any other shop and get mad at us when it dosent work or we wont touch it.
This does strike my interest but my concern relates to alignment issues for the most part.
 
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:01 PM
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That's because there is too much damn rocket science involved with wiring. Just thinking of all those different colors makes me wonder where I left my box of crayons.
 
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:08 PM
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my dang 08 wears stuff bad. i have put ***** joints and wheel bearings 1 time and axle joints 2 times. tires are wearing on the insides. still drives good though. i like to read about fixes for this problem.
 
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:17 PM
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Yea, I think the cat that wired the last 24 volt truck must have been color blind....but hey who needs fusible links anyway.

Tony, Moog makes some great "problem" solver parts that have helped us keep our customers happy. Their sweet trucks but the front end leaves alot to be desired. Like i said before, I know there's talks of a better hub design but who knows.
 
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mysterync
There's been some talk of "greasing" the hubs through the ABS sensor. I dont agree with or think this is a good idea at all but its a thought. Enjoy not having a properly working ABS system if you do


Hmmm, and the "magical grease" in the hubs now is made special to not affect the sensors??

Its a Hall effect sensor that reads magnetic pulses from the tone ring...there is nothing in direct connection for grease to affect. If your logic was true, then the tone ring in the rear differential shouldn't work either because its bathed in gear oil as you drive down the road!

I, as well as a good many people, have greased their hubs...it does not affect the ABS. I was probably one of the first to pull a unit bearing apart, repack it, and squeeze it back together...those first bearings are still going strong with 290k+ miles on my father's 99 2500. If you actually take one apart, you'd find less than a teaspoon of grease "protecting" your bearings.
 
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:44 PM
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XRF balljoints are supposed to be pretty good too. Probably the best your going to get unless you step up to Carlis(which you can't get right now) or Dynatracs.
 
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:49 PM
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What is sticky and pumped in your wheel hub? Grease. What is composed of metallic components? Everything in your wheel hub...Get where I'm going here...no?...okay let me go further lets say a there's a failure or contamination of metallic nature in your wheel hub, The grease picks up the metallic particles and suspends them...guess what...if that grease with suspended metallic shavings happens to move in front of the tone ring...false ABS sensor readings. If you'll do some reading you'll find thats why 75% of modern cars use front abs tone rings on the axle shaft outside of the bearings or hub. I actually went to a class that covered this subject a bit. I've got customers with factory hubs at 210,000 miles, actually did a complete front end rebuild on one the other day. Hubs tight as can be and still factory..normal? Nope but in the same respect hub life can affected from anything such as terrain, potholes, poor truck maint., length of trips etc etc etc.

If it works for you...good luck... but you wont find this procedure being done in my shop anytime soon.

Oh yea....and if my logic wasnt true...your rear differential would be packed full of axle grease

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Hmmm, and the "magical grease" in the hubs now is made special to not affect the sensors??

Its a Hall effect sensor that reads magnetic pulses from the tone ring...there is nothing in direct connection for grease to affect. If your logic was true, then the tone ring in the rear differential shouldn't work either because its bathed in gear oil as you drive down the road!

I, as well as a good many people, have greased their hubs...it does not affect the ABS. I was probably one of the first to pull a unit bearing apart, repack it, and squeeze it back together...those first bearings are still going strong with 290k+ miles on my father's 99 2500. If you actually take one apart, you'd find less than a teaspoon of grease "protecting" your bearings.
 
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:41 PM
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yeah i suppose i will have too get the offset moogs. dag gone jump up junk. the old 2wd trucks when i was a kid had king pins. i think they would last longer
 
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I'm with you on that Tony. Just make sure you set the moogs right.....that little blue line is very important .
 
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:57 PM
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heck if i get it off i will just wear the other side of the tires
 


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