Upgrading My Fuel System On The Cheap!!!
#1
Upgrading My Fuel System On The Cheap!!!
So I am sure that there have been a ton of threads about and I have searched a fair amount, but everyone just keeps screaming fass right off the bat.
I want to run a different pump, along with new larger line etc. but for somewhat cheap. I don't understand why I can't just use something like this...
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
With this would I just be able to completely eliminate the lift pump completely?
I am sure someone has written a cheap way to do this.
What are my other options?
I'm kinda new to this so I am open to opinions and ideas, but I'm not the kinda guy who just goes out and buys expensive stuff because its the cool thing. I would much rather fabricate something else to work just as well.
I want to run a different pump, along with new larger line etc. but for somewhat cheap. I don't understand why I can't just use something like this...
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
With this would I just be able to completely eliminate the lift pump completely?
I am sure someone has written a cheap way to do this.
What are my other options?
I'm kinda new to this so I am open to opinions and ideas, but I'm not the kinda guy who just goes out and buys expensive stuff because its the cool thing. I would much rather fabricate something else to work just as well.
#2
Do a search on the pump you want (Holley Blue...).
https://www.dieselbombers.com/showth...ht=Holley+Blue
I don't have any personal experience with them,
but I'm sure there are a few on here that do...
And Welcome. Enjoy the site.
https://www.dieselbombers.com/showth...ht=Holley+Blue
I don't have any personal experience with them,
but I'm sure there are a few on here that do...
And Welcome. Enjoy the site.
#3
Welcome Friend
I have read this type of thread many many many times for 10 years now and in the end the guy ends up with a Fass/ Airdog /Rasp/MUTUSA/Walbro every time
I must say I know of one Holy out there that has been doing well for a few years now..........Gary KY 605 or whatever his handle is
he has a good article on it somewhere here I will see ifin I can find it
I have read this type of thread many many many times for 10 years now and in the end the guy ends up with a Fass/ Airdog /Rasp/MUTUSA/Walbro every time
I must say I know of one Holy out there that has been doing well for a few years now..........Gary KY 605 or whatever his handle is
he has a good article on it somewhere here I will see ifin I can find it
#4
here is the article I was thinkin bout......................but it looks like he is runniun a Walbro now too
https://www.dieselbombers.com/dodge-diesel-tech-articles/6039-roll-yer-own-fuel-regulators-bypass-valves.html
https://www.dieselbombers.com/dodge-diesel-tech-articles/6039-roll-yer-own-fuel-regulators-bypass-valves.html
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Nitelord (01-15-2008)
#5
I have run the Holley Blue before & installed a few on friends trucks. They are good pumps & they do supply enough fuel to eliminate the stock lp. To do it on the cheap, well just go to Advanced Auto or Auto Zone & buy the Holley Blue pump, 3 feet of 3/8" hose [diesel compatable] & 2 barbed fittings to screw into the Holley pump which accepts 3/8" hose, 4 hose clamps for 3/8" lines. Then you need a relay, fuse holder & 35' of 14g wire.
Mount the 30amp relay on the firewall. Unplug your stock lp harness & connect a wire from the red wire in that harness to the relay. This will be your switched power to the relay. Then run a wire from battery positive to the relay 12v using the fuse holder in line. Then run a ground wire from the relay to chassis ground. The last connection is your accessory which will run to the Holley pump 12v.
Mount your holley pump on the inside of the frame rail as close to the tank as possible. Remove the screen from the inlet line of the Holley. Cut the 3/8 fuel line, flare the end of the line & connect your 3/8" hose from the line to the holley pump & from the holley to the other line using the 3/8" barbed fittings & clamps. Connect your red power wire from the Holley pump to the relay "accessory". Run a wire from battery negative to the Holley ground wire.
This system will support 450hp+ & be very reliable for a cost of $160.
Mount the 30amp relay on the firewall. Unplug your stock lp harness & connect a wire from the red wire in that harness to the relay. This will be your switched power to the relay. Then run a wire from battery positive to the relay 12v using the fuse holder in line. Then run a ground wire from the relay to chassis ground. The last connection is your accessory which will run to the Holley pump 12v.
Mount your holley pump on the inside of the frame rail as close to the tank as possible. Remove the screen from the inlet line of the Holley. Cut the 3/8 fuel line, flare the end of the line & connect your 3/8" hose from the line to the holley pump & from the holley to the other line using the 3/8" barbed fittings & clamps. Connect your red power wire from the Holley pump to the relay "accessory". Run a wire from battery negative to the Holley ground wire.
This system will support 450hp+ & be very reliable for a cost of $160.
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Nitelord (01-15-2008)
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#7
Just my .02
I prefer to runa single pump system. Mechanical, electric, whatever. To me, I only wan to have one pump to fail. It reduces complexity. Take the other pump and throw it under hte seat for the just in case factor.
I have big line kits that make upgrading the lines easy as well. BUt I always recommend a draw tube in the tank. I elimanted all the vacuum on the intake side of my system with this mod. I would -8 lines tot he inlet of the pump and you could run factory lines on the pressure side if you chose.
I like to get the VP pressures close to the pump, but not right at the inlet. Too close and it tends to destroy gauges. An isolator of some kind is highly recommended.
It's not uncommon for a ton of guys look to the cheaper route. Nothing wrong with it. Just be sure to give that pump a fighting chance.
Dave
I prefer to runa single pump system. Mechanical, electric, whatever. To me, I only wan to have one pump to fail. It reduces complexity. Take the other pump and throw it under hte seat for the just in case factor.
I have big line kits that make upgrading the lines easy as well. BUt I always recommend a draw tube in the tank. I elimanted all the vacuum on the intake side of my system with this mod. I would -8 lines tot he inlet of the pump and you could run factory lines on the pressure side if you chose.
I like to get the VP pressures close to the pump, but not right at the inlet. Too close and it tends to destroy gauges. An isolator of some kind is highly recommended.
It's not uncommon for a ton of guys look to the cheaper route. Nothing wrong with it. Just be sure to give that pump a fighting chance.
Dave
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Nitelord (01-15-2008)
#8
After going through 3 holleys (1 blue and 2 black) in 2 years time, I finally went with the walbro and 2 micron filtration. The walbro pump is cheaper than the holley now and much more durable. Granted I did have to shell out $125 for a good aeromotive regulator (there is a mallory unit for $100 that I think would work just as well for a bit less cost) but this pump will last MUCH longer than the holleys. With my experience, the holleys die about every 10 months.
I too cant get over spending all that coin on a FASS and I dont have a cam swap planned in the near future so I had to do something cheaper. All totalled I think I have $450 in this fuel system, and it gets rid of the stock filter and housing, and goes down to 2 micron. I have it set for 18psi at the VP and I cant pull it under 16 no matter what I do, how hard I work it, how long I pull it, I just cant suck the walbro dry. Holleys on the other hand could lose as much as 6psi or more on my truck, everything else being exactly the same.
I too cant get over spending all that coin on a FASS and I dont have a cam swap planned in the near future so I had to do something cheaper. All totalled I think I have $450 in this fuel system, and it gets rid of the stock filter and housing, and goes down to 2 micron. I have it set for 18psi at the VP and I cant pull it under 16 no matter what I do, how hard I work it, how long I pull it, I just cant suck the walbro dry. Holleys on the other hand could lose as much as 6psi or more on my truck, everything else being exactly the same.
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