5.9L 24V Performance Discussion of 24 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with VP44 Injection Pumps Related To Performance And Longevity

Running Too High EGT's - Water/Meth?

Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:18 PM
  #1  
DB Admin's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 29,849
Likes: 3,297
From: Perry Co. Ohio
Default Running Too High EGT's - Water/Meth?

Ok so with the new quad tune my pyro is about 1000* all the time , Is there any set backs to water/meth lonjevity wise? increase fuel mileage? which kit to get ?
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:23 PM
  #2  
dirt diggler's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 276
Likes: 7
From: Perry County, Ohio
Default

Kenny i guess knows alot about the water meth so im told
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:29 PM
  #3  
DB Admin's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 29,849
Likes: 3,297
From: Perry Co. Ohio
Default

ill give him a call , i found this ... pretty impressive

DYNO RESULTS: '04 CUMMINS EFFECT OF WATER-METHANOL CONCENTRATIONS
RWHP TORQUE
Stock 279 hp 580 lb-ft
Baseline (with Edge EZ) 379 hp 766 lb-ft
Windshield washer fluid 429 hp 873 lb-ft
50 percent methanol 453 hp 930 lb-ft
75 percent methanol 487 hp 960 lb-ft
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:40 PM
  #4  
dirt diggler's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 276
Likes: 7
From: Perry County, Ohio
Default

i found out it is very trickey to get it set right i would say that you would need a dyno on hand when setting the system up to see were your gains would be on the settings. As a matter of fact i still dont have mine figured out but i got it set to were the motor sounds like it not gettin to munch to quick. o well
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:42 PM
  #5  
DB Admin's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 29,849
Likes: 3,297
From: Perry Co. Ohio
Default

i just want a little bit to cool me down dont need any more hp and dont want to decrease longevity
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 09:13 PM
  #6  
J-Pipes's Avatar
Diesel Wrench
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 562
Likes: 34
From: Brownsville, Oh
Default

If your going to ask Kenny, he is working 2nd shift this week, so you'll need to call him before 1:00. Good luck, I would like to put some on my truck eventually
 
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 12:05 AM
  #7  
Diesel Dawgs Performance's Avatar
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,546
Likes: 843
From: Western NC
Default

I wouldn't run over a 50% Mix.
 
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 02:01 AM
  #8  
bobcat67's Avatar
Diesel Bomber
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,222
Likes: 140
From: Bozeman, MT
Default

I'd get the Snow performance kit with the big ol 7 gallon tank so you don't have to worry about it emptying itself on a couple hard runs or something, buddy of mine had it on his dmax and would go through a windshield washer reservoir in 2 1/4 mile passes
 
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 12:29 PM
  #9  
mxtuner1's Avatar
Diesel Enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 160
Likes: 12
From: Nebraska
Default

Make your own kit, DM, and you will be happy. Remember methanol/water mix the more water the more cooling. So you can batch up your own mixture (here a 55 gallon 99+% pure methanol delivered to my garage is only $130.00)- and if towing use more water ratio. I would use even straight water if egt's are too high. But for power - the chemical sites say that methanol/water miscibility burn ratio is best at 65/meth 35/water for power. Above that is wasting meth. I would think a 2 stage system ran with 2 selenoids first one small jet for mileage set at 1 lb boost and second set larger jet set at 7lbs boost for more power when needed. You would get mileage and power that way. PM me if you want help with the kit.
 
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 01:42 PM
  #10  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
BOMBARDIER
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 23,293
Likes: 1,322
From: North of You
Default

Originally Posted by mxtuner1
Make your own kit, DM, and you will be happy. Remember methanol/water mix the more water the more cooling. So you can batch up your own mixture (here a 55 gallon 99+% pure methanol delivered to my garage is only $130.00)- and if towing use more water ratio. I would use even straight water if egt's are too high. But for power - the chemical sites say that methanol/water miscibility burn ratio is best at 65/meth 35/water for power. Above that is wasting meth. I would think a 2 stage system ran with 2 selenoids first one small jet for mileage set at 1 lb boost and second set larger jet set at 7lbs boost for more power when needed. You would get mileage and power that way. PM me if you want help with the kit.


Share the info - Im sure some of our other members would be interested too.
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 PM.