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adrenaline vs juice show down, one truck, 2 programers, which one wins?

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Old 04-06-2009, 10:12 AM
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itll probably happen tomorrow or wednesday, itll be dyno data only as i wont be able to use the track at cummins due to them testing out there this time. this time the EGTs will be monitored via the dyno as well. boost will still be the mechanical reading from my pillar gauge
 
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:33 AM
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Sounds good to me We'll be waiting Have fun!!!
 
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:50 PM
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okay here we go, results were better then last time. all runs were began in 4th gear, 38 mph, 800 rpms and then ran through the full rpm range up to redline without shifting gears of course. All egts taken from the dyno computer

basic level, no programer
dyno results- 304.2 hp @ 2215 rpm and 716.4 ft lbs @ 1850 rpms

Adrenaline with the settings luke reccomended
Tune-ADR2000
Timing- 10
Max Can and Pump- 80
Min Can and Pump- 20
Pump Streach -2000

dyno results- 456.3 hp @ 2175 rpm and 1042.5 ft lbs @ 1790 rpm
max boost-40 psi
max EGT- 1578 degrees
fuel pressue @ WOT- 14 psi



Edge juice with attitude 5x5

dyno results- 462.6 hp @ 2035 rpm and 1069.8 ft lbs @ 1810 rpm
max boost-39 psi
max EGT- 1565 degrees
fuel pressue @ WOT- 15 psi



I wish i had a scanner or a digital camera to put up these charts, while Edge made a little more HP and TQ, the power curve was totally different then the ADR. The edges went up fast but then sloped off in a some what steep decline, especially above 2100 rpms. The ADRs went up even faster but it stayed up close to its max power or gained almost all the way through the RPM range and didnt begin falling off until almost 2600 rpms. And yes, it did seem to fuel harder then the edge too this time. Im still hoping to break the 500 hp mark but it appears neither chip alone is going to get me any closer at all. ill get track data as soon as i can.

and yes, i need a bigger charger
 
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:57 PM
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With the new ADRCOMP3 you be closer to your 500hp Goal. I would have told you to dyno the ADRCOMP2 but I have been having some issue with the truck shuting down when close to 3K. The settings I sent you seem to work the best for my truck but may not work best with all trucks. This is the best thing about the Adrenaline you can custom tune to whatever settings work best with your application. I'd like to see how the new Comp3 or ADR3000G tune does compared to the ADR2000. I know by seat of the pants the COMP Tunes fuel much harder than the 2000 tunes.

Thanks for doing this dukeboy
 
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:38 PM
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no problem luke, we did try the ADR3000G after the 2000 tune and my truck did not run worth a damn with it, it kept shutting it off everytime i tried to make a run and it had a real bad surge to it, then there was one time this morning when it reved up and sounded like it was gonna explode, kinda sounded like the 3 cyl high idle kicked in, dont know why but it ran smooth with the 2000 series tune in it so yeah, the adr is back off my truck, my buddy decided to let me have it cheap, hes gonna p-pump his after he gets his tranny done due to his vp44 begining to take a dump.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:06 PM
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I agree something wrong too

I run the dragcomp box on 5x4 and get 1300 or better every time with 150hp mach 4s and I run a SPS62-14cm as in twice the air of a hx35

but then I have my manifold wrapped and it holds heat a little better.

Is the juice/attitude the same software as the drag/comp box ? ? ?
 
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rivercat
I agree something wrong too

I run the dragcomp box on 5x4 and get 1300 or better every time with 150hp mach 4s and I run a SPS62-14cm as in twice the air of a hx35

but then I have my manifold wrapped and it holds heat a little better.

Is the juice/attitude the same software as the drag/comp box ? ? ?
its very similar, i think the drag comp fuels to 3800 rpm not sure on that though. I did go and get a new egt probe and hooked it up to my existing gauge and now, even on stock tune, i can hit 1500+ easy, if i get on it. The wire on the probe and frayed and it think that was what was giving an inaccurate reading
 
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