the way i feel on the issue, there both good products, i have heard nothing but good about either one, my money is going to go to valair because i dont have twice that amount of money right now to dish out on a south bend, people have had good luck with both, alot of people are just afraid to try the new guys clutch because the industry standard for a long time has been south bend, that dont mean that either one product is superior to each other, other people may beleive that, it may be true, it may not, but what it comes down to is valair is an extremely affordable alternative to south bend, this thread here i started because i wanted a clutch recommendation, it has turned into a clutch war, so i think all you guys should just accept that valair is making a step into the high performance diesel clutch market, and now south bend has some competiton in the clutch market

 

Just get an auto...

 

I never said you used the word bash. No one here has said anything bad about southbend and I dont understand why its turning into a argument. One person (not you) said that he saw them bash sbc on another thread he was asked to show where and that was it. So far all I have read is people stating their opinions. Nobody asked you to show posts as to where valair was putting down sbc, I think you read my post in the wrong way. As far as im concerned this post is done the originator has made his decision.

 

Exactly!!!!!


DBogo: feel free to contact me further if you think I can answer any more questions, I'm always willing to help.....Josh

 

Fair enough guys. Sorry to Dbogo for taking it off the path..

 

I have a valair clutch pressure plate ( kit 13" ) in my 2002 3500 6 speed ho engine, 300HP injectors and a edge comp. Valiar is top quality, just a company with less overhead than some places. I have the 500HP x 1100 ftp set, it is smooth on start, and locks in solid.

Remember that clutch , pressure plate manufacturer buy the parts and assy them.

It takes tooling and a press to stamp the clutch cover, that will cost several million to setup.

 

 

I have a idea..

I am running a SBC in my F250 and love it .. I have never tried a Valair clutch or know anything about them

I have a towing company we run ford diesels we are hard on our trucks, so with that being said SBC and Valair each send me a clutch ill install one in each of my wreckers and we will see what clutch lasts longest and works best.. now before you say well the drivers habits will effect the clutch each truck will be used by myself only.. this may take a year or two to finalize the testing though ..



j/k but seriously I do love my SBC and I will stick with what is proven by experience and what I know works great.. I like to use things myself and if they work I will continue to use them ...I don't like to take a chance on what I have no experience with, that's why I drive Fords they have been tried and tested and proven to be great work horses.. Been running them for 14 years in the towing industry

NOT saying it will happen but if you save $400 or $500 on a clutch (by any maker) and you have to drop the tranny out cause it failed prematurely is it still worth it ??? my time and my companies down time is worth more then a $400-$500 savings


Guess all I'm saying is the extra $$ is well worth it to have peace of mind KNOWING I have a quality part.. not just in the clutch market either.. in every product I buy

 

what ever clutch you decide on let me know because i need to get one to handle 600HP and 1200FT-LBs

 

Either a Valair ceramic 12.25" w/3800lb plate (NMU70119-04) or one of thier 13" ceramic should hold, but your going to be at the limits of the clutch. In my opinion you need to go straight to a dual disc, something in the 700-750hp rating area

Call Valair http://www.valairinc.com/performance/index.html and ask about thier dual disk, then check into some of these
http://www.powerpartsengineering.com/
http://www.kennysmachine.com/
http://www.scheiddiesel.com/index.htm
http://www.haisleymachine.com/
http://www.enterpriseengine.com/