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Old 01-27-2008, 11:24 AM
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Why settle for second best when it comes to something your going to use to apply power?.Would you run a second rate oil filter just because they were cheap or would you want to ensure that your truck was well taken care of?.There have been alot of threads about them by owners having issues with their products,thats going to happen.HOWEVER,the one thread that killed any thoughts in my eyes of using Valair was their personal attack of SBC on another board.That attack used no facts and they lost many customers there due to it.Peter's reputation and customer service is second to no one and their products stand for themselves.

Its your dollar and your truck,I'd say do more research and then make your decision.Sometimes cheaper is not always the better value......Andy
 
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:51 PM
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Let me be the first to say that I know absolutlely nothin good or bad about Valair Clutches so this isn't anything to do with them personally.

The clutch is what put's the power to the ground so without that you have no truck. It's also a huge pain in the backside if anything goes wrong with it, cause there is no easy fix on a clutch. It all means pullin it out of the truck. With that being said I'm sure their are some clutches on the market that are just as good if not better then South Bend but until they prove themselves with a good many trucks on the road, I'll pay the extra money for years of proven customer service and quality control for the product for this particular piece especially.
 
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:05 AM
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I'll admit SBC makes an awesome product, and has first rate customer service...

Unfortunetly not everyone can afford a $1000 clutch, myself included when I needed one. Valair has provided clutches to myself and a few friends of mine, and the products and customer service has either met or gone beyond exspectations.

I currently have a 400hp 12.25" clutch in my truck that is holding over 900ftlb of torque, and as long as it lasts a resonable amount of time I will be calling them when I wear this one out. Or if I get to the point that this one won't hold I will probably get one of their dual disc's soon to be released.

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Old 01-28-2008, 01:20 PM
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The clutch is what put's the power to the ground so without that you have no truck. It's also a huge pain in the backside if anything goes wrong with it, cause there is no easy fix on a clutch. It all means pullin it out of the truck. With that being said I'm sure their are some clutches on the market that are just as good if not better then South Bend but until they prove themselves with a good many trucks on the road, I'll pay the extra money for years of proven customer service and quality control for the product for this particular piece especially.
This is what I was trying to point out Bubba...
Valair may have some products that will handle the job as may many others.Until they are proven to hold or withstand the abuse that comes with our trucks then I myself would not gamble.I did that years ago with Centerforce and all I ended up with was broken parts and a very poor attitude towrds those who use us as their R&D lab.SBC's units are proven and have shown their ruggedness more than any other brand out there.

And so those here do not confuse me with a SBC owner,I am not.I have an original Mitchell Double that has seen 90k of street abuse and still is hanging on without ever being down.When I did my clutch years ago Peter was just starting to make double discs and when I needed one he didn't have the input shaft,EEP did and they got the work.After seeing what Sled Puller put his Mitchell double through the first 3 years of pulling and street driving I knew mine would give me the best shot of handling the power and lasting,it was a decision that has earned its keep for me time and time again.

I will be installing a new unit very soon and have my Mitchell freshened and sell it so someone else can get their moneys worth out of it too........Andy.
 
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer
Why settle for second best when it comes to something your going to use to apply power?.Would you run a second rate oil filter just because they were cheap or would you want to ensure that your truck was well taken care of?.There have been alot of threads about them by owners having issues with their products,thats going to happen.HOWEVER,the one thread that killed any thoughts in my eyes of using Valair was their personal attack of SBC on another board.That attack used no facts and they lost many customers there due to it.Peter's reputation and customer service is second to no one and their products stand for themselves.

Its your dollar and your truck,I'd say do more research and then make your decision.Sometimes cheaper is not always the better value......Andy
I would be very interested as the owner of valair to know what post you would be reffering to, We have never bashed any of our competitors and it is standard policy.
and as far as loosing business, our business is better than ever.
 
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:21 AM
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Hey Valair:

My little organic is holding up well, dyno'd last month over 900ftlbs, but I have a feeling I'm going to out grow this one alot sooner than expected LOL..... How are those dual disks looking???

....josh
 
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:04 AM
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The dual discs will be available in the next two weeks.
 
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer
Why settle for second best when it comes to something your going to use to apply power?.Would you run a second rate oil filter just because they were cheap or would you want to ensure that your truck was well taken care of?.There have been alot of threads about them by owners having issues with their products,thats going to happen.HOWEVER,the one thread that killed any thoughts in my eyes of using Valair was their personal attack of SBC on another board.That attack used no facts and they lost many customers there due to it.Peter's reputation and customer service is second to no one and their products stand for themselves.

Its your dollar and your truck,I'd say do more research and then make your decision.Sometimes cheaper is not always the better value......Andy
What makes Valair the "second best" in your own words you said "That attack used no facts" where are your facts? Just because one person has been around longer dosent make them the best, everyone has to start at somewhere and just because something cost less dosent make it "cheap" or even inferior to anything else on the market. Im currently running a valair clutch, im not gonna lie at first I was a little worried but after talking to them all worries were gone so far the people I have talked to from valair are very nice and VERY helpfull. I love my clutch will recomend it to anyone I talk to and if the time ever comes that I need a new one im going back to valair.
 
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OneBadBia
What makes Valair the "second best" in your own words you said "That attack used no facts" where are your facts? Just because one person has been around longer dosent make them the best, everyone has to start at somewhere and just because something cost less dosent make it "cheap" or even inferior to anything else on the market. Im currently running a valair clutch, im not gonna lie at first I was a little worried but after talking to them all worries were gone so far the people I have talked to from valair are very nice and VERY helpfull. I love my clutch will recomend it to anyone I talk to and if the time ever comes that I need a new one im going back to valair.
Well said, my next clutch will also be a ValAir!
 
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:53 PM
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well im pretty sure im going to get a valair, yes southbends are great clutches but why pay twice as much for a clutch that is the same quality, there both good clutches it just comes down to the money, i save $500 then thats $500 more that can go into something else
 


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