Cool air doesn't mean anything on turbo apps. The second that air hits the turbo its instantly superheated anyways. The bhaf will yield better mileage and more power and better sound

 

I see you never took a physics class....
Okaaaaaay, then. Good luck with that!

 

Physics has NOTHING to do with a turbo thats thousands of degrees. Thats like saying "oh I'm going to sit in an icebath for a few minutes so when I land on the sun my cool body wont get so hot". The second that "cool" air touches the turbo, its superheated to a few thousand degrees. Thats why intercooler efficiency is so important.

 

If you say so....

Aren't you the one who didn't know what a vacuum pump looks like and whether or not his truck had hydroboost?
I'll bet the folks at Los Alamos Labs would be interested in that!

 

ya dont waist yout time with those cheesy BHAF put the money toward a AFE intake system there 100x better

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a few thousand degrees what the hell are you smokin aluminum melts at 1200 which by the way is what your intercooler is made of last time i checked at aint even close to a thousand let alone a few thousand

 

Wow dude, I think you really need to chill out - Why do you have to bring up some stuff like that from an entirely different thread that has nothing to do with this one at all? There's no need for that..

Now for my $.02... Yes, you would be correct that cooler air is more dense and therefore holds more oxygen.. bingo, more power potential - however, you haven't even considered the process that the air goes through before it enters the cylinders. And.. I have taken MANY physics classes. Since you seem to be so knowledgeable on the subject of physics, you must know that when air is compressed, it heats up ( isn't that what the compressor wheel in the turbo does? ) So.. is 10 or 15 degrees in air temperature really going to make THAT much of a horsepower difference? The answer is no. 10 more horsepower? Really? Not happening.

Anyway, thats just my $.02, if you don't like it, well, either get over it or die mad.

 

Here's your physics lesson 9412Valve, since you evidently forgot what you claim to have learned:

-1 degree "in" + (whatever you care to calculate for compression) = -1 degree "out"

Like the man says, "it's all relative...."

Let me know if you need to figure out the oxygen density change per degree Fahrenheit.
Thank Gawd it wasn't .03 or .04, it gets tiring correcting all the misinformation floating around here.

 

Yes I'm a powerstroke guy. Cummins are a VERY different motor. Of course I know my truck doesn't have hydroboost; thank God! Although I'm a bit shaded as per the relevance of that loaded question.

The bhaf isn't "cheezy".. it's just the poor mans intake setup. And as somebody said earlier, the bhaf yielded MORE power than the afe for 1/5 the price.

I was exaggerating, I'm glad you realized that, but it doesn't matter if you ICE the incoming air on a turbo diesel; the point is, the second that iced air touches the turbo, it's instantly scorching hot. A "cold air intake" doesn't matter as much on a turbo diesel as much as "a big f*cking intake that draws a large volume of air very efficiently".

 

You don't have to buy the whole intake very time, just a replacement element, and those are less than the BHAF.
Why doesn't it occur to you that air temperature is a significant factor in this "efficiency" you speak of? Or why almost EVERY AUTOMOBILE, TRUCK, MOTORCYCLE, MOPED, BULLDOZER, ATV, etc, etc, etc, you ever see rolls off the assembly line with an enclosed air filter box or compartment of some kind? Ever wonder why companies like AFE, Banks, et al are making boatloads of money selling the things?

Ever wonder about that?

 

Auto manufacturers dont give a rats *** about cool air, they care about fit and finish, being QUIET, looking proffesional and classy, safe (ZERO possibility of sucking up water or likewise) etc. NOT for more power.

If the stock intakes are so great on cars, why did I get a 3-5mpg increase going with a 6637 in my bone stock 7.3 psd 6spd, over the stock element?


Banks and afe and bullydog make money on their products because of media coverage and advertising. It has nothing to do with a quality product or being the "best".. people see the brand name and think power, reliable, and braggard rights.