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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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what are advantages/disadvantages of running plateless? thinking about pulling my 100 plate out and going with no plate.anyone have any problem? i guess it is the diesel sickness! started with moving stock ff then got a #10 then ground the stock to a 100. now want to try no plate. does it ever stop??????????
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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you wont get to much more power just keep it in and to answer the question does it stop no no it doesnt
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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I removed my 100 plate and there was not much difference at all. Temps were the same, I just haven't gotten around to putting it back in. I have my afc set up with shop air for full travel around 35 psi and the smoke screw is just touching the diaphragm there is only a haze of gray smoke at full throttle and pulls real good.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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No it never stops, Ive ran my truck plateless for several thousand miles now with no problems at all.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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do you gain much if any by flipping the washers. i got plate full forward, a tst afc spring, star wheel 3/4 of the way forward. havent messed with the smoke screw yet, and are there any gains by grinding a 1/8 off the barrel?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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By flipping the washers and grinding the barrel you allow full travel of the afc foot.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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thanks that will be next. then some new injectors that my stock turbo will support! 75hp or the 215's not sure yet.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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No it never stops, Ive ran my truck plateless for several thousand miles now with no problems at all.
X2.....BUT...
I have been plateless for 200k of the 220k that my truck has on it now.

And as for stopping or does it ever end..........I can answer that.....

YES!....When the crank is laying out on the ground asking what just happened.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Whats the power difference between a #10 plate and no plate or a #0?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jake 94
Whats the power difference between a #10 plate and no plate or a #0?
https://www.dieselbombers.com/5-9l-1...uel-plate.html

post number 4 and 23.

here is post 23 that will answer the question from my experience.

Originally Posted by Benjamin
red was my highest run with the 100 plate FF, it was my second pull. 3rd pull i tried to lug it down too much and ended up with worse numbers. i waited 15 min and took the 100 out and the first pull (4th total) with no plate yeilded these numbers (in blue). all these numbers were made with Stock DV's, Stock Injectors, Stock turbo and 12cm housing, Stock Exhaust Manifold, Stock Intake Horn and Intercooler, Stock Lift Pump, Stock Timing, Stock Fan, Goerend Tranny w/ alot of rotational mass (billet flexplate, converter, dual wheels) Starwheel all the way loose. not too bad for a completely stock motor, wasn't too hard to get good numbers. that sure beats 180/410 at the crank my truck came with....


 
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