Catalytic Converter Question
I'm thinking of reinstalling the cat on my 04.5, mainly for the noise reduction.
When I bought this truck, it was the first 3rd gen (non-cali) with a cat and everyone was convinced that they were problematic...so I jumped on that bandwagon. I removed my 04.5's cat so long ago, I don't even remember if there were any changes in performance. It was also before I installed gauges and SmartyJR...so I have no idea what, if anything, it did to EGTs/performance. I have probably 200k without a cat...
I want to remember it did little for mileage reduction (no clear improvement afterward)...I have those numbers recorded, so I can look that up myself. Does the cat significantly increase the EGTs?? Was there any real benefit to taking it off in the first place?
Thoughts?
When I bought this truck, it was the first 3rd gen (non-cali) with a cat and everyone was convinced that they were problematic...so I jumped on that bandwagon. I removed my 04.5's cat so long ago, I don't even remember if there were any changes in performance. It was also before I installed gauges and SmartyJR...so I have no idea what, if anything, it did to EGTs/performance. I have probably 200k without a cat...
I want to remember it did little for mileage reduction (no clear improvement afterward)...I have those numbers recorded, so I can look that up myself. Does the cat significantly increase the EGTs?? Was there any real benefit to taking it off in the first place?
Thoughts?
But is the added flow meaningful? Does the cat really add that much restriction?
I already have a 30-inch Magnaflo on a mandrel bent 304SS system...
the cat really does restrict a lot. You might end up just plugging it up and blowing it out the exhaust if you have any other modifications. It does quiet it down, but not as much as a muffler would. I know you can plug them up on gassers pretty easy. I have a buddy with a 1998 F150 that has an Edge module and he put duals on it from the manifolds back with 2 new cats, and he ended up blowing the dead chunks of the cats out the exhaust after 5,000 miles.
I am running 500hp through my cat and have had no problems my highest egt was a little over 1200deg while running on 1/8th mile drag strip. and it takes most if not all of the highway drone out
Steved,
You still have the old CAT, right? Hold that POS up to a light, take a gander through it from one end to the other, and then you tell me if it restricts anything!
I ditched mine, the entire system, and went with a 4" turbo-back mandrel bent system. HUGE improvement in spooling and MPG's, but that was probably compounded by my other aspiration mods. I can honestly say, I believe reinstalling that CAT wouldn't exactly be in your best interests, unless you are trying to pass an emisions test of some sort. Companies make CAT-delete pipes, haven't seen any CAT-install pipes for a while.
You still have the old CAT, right? Hold that POS up to a light, take a gander through it from one end to the other, and then you tell me if it restricts anything!
I ditched mine, the entire system, and went with a 4" turbo-back mandrel bent system. HUGE improvement in spooling and MPG's, but that was probably compounded by my other aspiration mods. I can honestly say, I believe reinstalling that CAT wouldn't exactly be in your best interests, unless you are trying to pass an emisions test of some sort. Companies make CAT-delete pipes, haven't seen any CAT-install pipes for a while.
Steved,
You still have the old CAT, right? Hold that POS up to a light, take a gander through it from one end to the other, and then you tell me if it restricts anything!
I ditched mine, the entire system, and went with a 4" turbo-back mandrel bent system. HUGE improvement in spooling and MPG's, but that was probably compounded by my other aspiration mods. I can honestly say, I believe reinstalling that CAT wouldn't exactly be in your best interests, unless you are trying to pass an emisions test of some sort. Companies make CAT-delete pipes, haven't seen any CAT-install pipes for a while. 
You still have the old CAT, right? Hold that POS up to a light, take a gander through it from one end to the other, and then you tell me if it restricts anything!
I ditched mine, the entire system, and went with a 4" turbo-back mandrel bent system. HUGE improvement in spooling and MPG's, but that was probably compounded by my other aspiration mods. I can honestly say, I believe reinstalling that CAT wouldn't exactly be in your best interests, unless you are trying to pass an emisions test of some sort. Companies make CAT-delete pipes, haven't seen any CAT-install pipes for a while. 
I have looked through it...its amazingly open...add to that the surface area of the overall diameter, and it probably has the same open space as an open pipe.
I want to remember I saw no improvement in performance, but again that was too long ago. I did review my logs, and I got just as good of mileage back then as I get today...there was no apparent mileage increase.
They sell cat delete pipes for a reason...people BUY them, it doesn't mean they do a thing for performance.

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I can only assume the cat is intact? Is it the OE cat?
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