update i called Xteme diesel in Yadkinville NC he said he has seen this a million times he said its either the bands or the vb needs cleaning worse to worse needs solenoids so if he pops up and says it need cleaning and such i think i will let him just clean it and put new electrics in it and chunk up for a new tranny this winter if this is how it goes if i have to get a vb i am pretty set after research on a Georand but i am wondering why alot of people have told me on a few dif things to stay clear of ats even my diesel guy says no ats i always thought that they had what u need anyway i will update because i have seen alot more people with this same problem on here i have an apt sat so he said 75 bucks to do both bands and tv cable plus i will be paying for some new amsoil and 150 to pull and clean vb plus 100 for each solenoid he replaces if he has to, that seems fair from what i have researched