1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by swampdonky311
have any of you with pre turbo gauges had any problems with the tip of the probe getting boken up and sucked into turbo?
When you put it in, you don't want the tip to bottom out and touch the casting on the other side

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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cougar
I have both pre and post. Never seen more than 200 difference. But, if you really want to be pit nikky #6 is the hottest due to less air making it to that cylinder. Put your probe in the runner as close to the cylinder head as possible.
Just for knowledge, I thought it was because coolant flow starts at #1 and flows to #6 thus the coolant is almost as hot as it can get by #6 not absorbing much more heat.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CUMMINStagetcha19
I thought it was because coolant flow starts at #1 and flows to #6 thus the coolant is almost as hot as it can get by #6 not absorbing much more heat.
That would be correct. Dodge mitigated the issue to some extent starting around the early common rail era by tapping the heater core out of the head between 5 and 6 to improve flow.

Prior to that, Cummins sold kits that flowed out the rear freeze plug for this purpose. Don't know if they are still available.

Wicked Diesel and Opie had a crack at blingy high-dollar kits using a regulator routing it back to the water pump ostensibly to reduce water jacket pressure at high rpm. Not sure how much bank that deposited but it was a nice bragging point for people with more money than sense.

This phenomenon is common to any inline 6 engine design, gas or diesel.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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So is it a progressive increase if you do post turbo or is it just flat 200 degrees
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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In cruise, they match back up. Under power is when they split.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Oh gotcha. I'm just going to go pre turbo.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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That's the best place, mainly because you will know for a bit more certain when you bust that 1250° danger zone. Post turbo can work if you can remember to figure in a correction based around boost and you know how much you have to correct for based on the probes location. That 200° is not a straight across the board figure because of location.
 
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