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Old 07-18-2011, 01:42 PM
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the shake is almost like a bad lope, when Im running down the road (highway), it went away and then when I get off the highway and come to a stop it shacks( just a little, even when I rev up the engine to 900 rpm it shakes, anything after 900 it goes away) and when I start to take off it has a little more shake to it, but when the truck is up in rpms it goes away.

the valve were not that bad, they were reading something like, 10 hg all I did was use my quickway to clean the seat and installed new valves.

it wasnt that bad of a shake, it just that I go down the road with the radio off and listen to every little noise, I guess you can say, I'm finding reasons to rebuild or replace something ()

snoot, I thought the same thing, so I replaced my injectors with oem replacments (still did it) said the heck with it and bought 5 x 14 from SDX (BRICE @ BBD TOOK CARE OF ME) when I put those in, it seem to be gone, took if for a drive (highway about an hour) the shake was back, after the SDX injectors went in, it would only do it after the truck was at running temps, so I pulled the head and found #5 and #6 burnt, have not put the truck together yet, it will be runnning in 3 weeks, I will post results, but I did replace pistons and rings as well so if they were also the blame to the warmup shake, as I call it, not sure. I also decked the head .001 with my new play toy (VULCON STORM 85B)
 

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Old 07-26-2011, 07:16 AM
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here is more pics, almost done. just a few other little things that I have to do.


I did find that my fuel pump gear had a hair line crack.

if you look at my first pic(at top of page), you can see that tiny little bowls in the piston.
 
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:40 AM
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so what exactly do you mean when you are talking about "10Hg" and "25Hg"?
 
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:01 AM
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vacuum, you want your valves too absolute pressure, or very close.

Hg = inches in mercury
 
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:16 PM
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oh ok. so how do you test that?
 
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:53 PM
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here is a cheap one, mine came with with my machine.
Pistol Grip Vacuum Tester Kit with 4.75" Vacuum Plate | Item #DVC-2011. | Goodson Tools & Supplies for Engine Builders

I buy alot of my tools from goodson, if you are loking for good tools, I would also look at MSC tools, and kwick way by iron tite

I did get the truck up and running as well, the shake is gone, the engine is really smooth and not as load as it was, so I would have to say that the shaking was from the the valves, the only thing that I can say why( when it was cold, the valves were seated better, then when I got it to running temps, it would leak around the seats)

but I also trued the bores to .00005, installed premium rings, had the crank, rods and pistons balanced, decked my head which also trued to .0005, put a 3 angle on the seats (when I took the valves out, I noticed that there was only 2 angles, just the throat and seat, no top angle at all) I have a 3 peice manifold installed with new hx40 (laggy on the bottom end)
I also had my balancer re-balanced, put in a 24v oil pump (just has more gpm's then the old one) 24v water pump (more gpm's as well) new cam (ground to my specs)new tappets, push rods, and bee hive valve springs (didnt really need them but what the heck)and a new clutch velair ceramic (took some time to get used to the clutch letting almost all the way out intill it engaged)oh, and I put in the marine cooling nozzles, they are just longer and direct the oil a little better and helps cool it better

the only thing that I dont like, when I put the foot down, she can smoke just like a freight train, the only thing that I did to the pump was put in a denny 2 pin, no adjustment to the pump(because the pump that was sopposed to go on was tweaked and done, but my guy who did the pump messed up the timing, no big deal, but I just put on another pump and will have him tweak the one on the truck)
 

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Old 10-20-2011, 10:11 PM
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wow you got a lot of work done too it. i bet it runs really good now. someday i wanna go through my motor but not for quite a while. although ill probly check into the valves though. what size are your injectors? my hx40 isnt really that laggy. after running my truck on the dyno it seems like my hx40 is at its limit. it doest hold the power like a bigger one should.
 
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:05 AM
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my injectors are SDX 5 x 14
 
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