1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

wrapping my turbo, advantave or not?

Old Mar 14, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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I've just completed the installation of a new twin setup that includes ceramic coating of the exhaust manifold, hot pipe, as well as the exhaust housings interior with a heat rejecting material (keeps the heat from moving into the iron) and exterior with a heat retaining material (keeps the heat in). It works.

As others have pointed out, it's the energy of heat that drives our turbo(s). The typical illustration is the fact that a pre-turbo EGT might be 1200*F. Under the same running conditions, but moving the temp probe to post-turbo now shows 900*F. That 300*F exhaust gas temperature drop represents the conversion of thermal energy to mechanical energy by the turbocharger. Anything we can do to keep the heat in the exhaust gases drives up the system's overall efficiency.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
I've just completed the installation of a new twin setup that includes ceramic coating of the exhaust manifold, hot pipe, as well as the exhaust housings interior with a heat rejecting material (keeps the heat from moving into the iron) and exterior with a heat retaining material (keeps the heat in). It works.

As others have pointed out, it's the energy of heat that drives our turbo(s). The typical illustration is the fact that a pre-turbo EGT might be 1200*F. Under the same running conditions, but moving the temp probe to post-turbo now shows 900*F. That 300*F exhaust gas temperature drop represents the conversion of thermal energy to mechanical energy by the turbocharger. Anything we can do to keep the heat in the exhaust gases drives up the system's overall efficiency.
best example I've heard yet! Thats what I was thinking but didn't know how to say it!
 
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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thanks bobby and bc 847 always good to learn new things even if it means i was wrong twice so far in my life
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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I dont agree that heat drives the turbo. It needs drive pressure, the heat lost is most likely dissipated off the turbo housing and downpipe. The higher pressure the exhaust is will also make it hotter, and since the turbo is a bottleneck in the exhaust then it holds pressure behind it making it hotter. Thats just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stGen1990
I dont agree that heat drives the turbo. It needs drive pressure, the heat lost is most likely dissipated off the turbo housing and downpipe. The higher pressure the exhaust is will also make it hotter, and since the turbo is a bottleneck in the exhaust then it holds pressure behind it making it hotter. Thats just my 2 cents.
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
A turbocharger is a small radial fan pump driven by the energy of the exhaust gases of an engine. A turbocharger consists of a turbine and a compressor on a shared shaft. The turbine converts exhaust heat to rotational force, which is in turn used to drive the compressor.

As compared to a supercharger, a turbocharger is driven using the exhaust gases. Otherwise wasted heat is extracted from the exhaust gas, and converted to useful power to compress the intake air.

As found here ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharger
 

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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stGen1990
I dont agree that heat drives the turbo. It needs drive pressure, the heat lost is most likely dissipated off the turbo housing and downpipe. The higher pressure the exhaust is will also make it hotter, and since the turbo is a bottleneck in the exhaust then it holds pressure behind it making it hotter. Thats just my 2 cents.
We're talking "heat" in a more theoretical physics sense... Think of "heat" as an energy that can be turned into temperature, pressure or mechanical motion depending on the properties of the system it's put into. ie. A big turbo can have a lot of heat go through it without actually having that much of a temperature or pressure drop. It's a flow thing.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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i have my down pipe wraped with header wrap.... can't say i noticed anything as far as the turbp working better.... but i'm not melting the insolation off my heater box anymore
 
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 01:00 AM
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You would need it pre-turbo or on the turbo itself to notice any power difference. One the exhaust side the hot exhaust air has already done its duty and just needs to get out of the way. Now if you have a small exhaust slowing the flow of the exhaust then you will see even more heat pre-turbo and carried threw post turbo.
 
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