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Old 01-18-2010, 12:55 PM
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1st gen 5.9 12v nv4500 5spd has 2 pin vss anyone know how to trouble shoot part and circuit b4 i start throwing parts at it ......
 
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:57 PM
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did you put the nv4500 in it because they didnt come stock in this. and what exactly are you trying to diagnose
 
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:22 PM
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it was a prior family member who owned truck and about 7-8 years ago we put a nv4500 and a 91 transfer case in I have had the truck about 3 years and all was well then bang....stopped working ...the vss was the 2 pin type and I tried a new one 60$ and still nothing....what I am looking for is if anyone knows what I should be reading on the 2 wires back to the dash... ohms,volts,closed continuity ,open ...???? also 4-5 weeks later the ecm voltage reg failed and I installed the by-pass reg trick ....that's: another problem see my other posting on that issue..... otherwise its the best truck i ever had!!!!!!!and the last ....
 
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:45 PM
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well the vss sends a pulsated signal to the PCM. it goes by a certain number of pulses per mile. if your ecm failed the voltage part and now your speedometer doesnt work, id maybe look into a pcm issue. the only only thing that could be wrong really is a wiring problem, if your vss is new as you say it is
 
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:56 PM
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would that sensor being bad cause your odometer to stop working..... mine quit at 131000, so i bought a gps to keep track of miles i put on the truck. would like the odometer to work tho
 
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it can, but more often than not it tends to be something else
 
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Old 01-20-2010, 04:43 PM
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It looks like it has something to do with my failing ECM .....I tried putting my old vss and new vss in a cordless drill on low speed and put my meter on ohms it appeared to read the same as i changed speeds on the drill with booth units reading consistent means my old vss is still good plus i hear those vss 's fail in the open position reading no continuity ........also found a good wire schematic for 1st gen and it clearly shows the wires going through the ecm .... and yes a Gps will be in the near future for speed and I already installed a hobbs hour meter for oil change times.....I guess ill do 3500 mi on the gps and match it to hrs and use that # as a reference
 
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just me but i run synthetic, change every 10k with a new filter every 5k
 
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Old 01-21-2010, 03:56 PM
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does anyone else out there use an hr meter...if so what would be a good # to do oil changes at ......since iv had the truck/last rebuild.. bin doing 3500K w/filter using rotella oil....I will be taking readings with a meter this week-end on a 90 1st gen that's VSS is working and compare to mine.....If i find anything will post how to and what reading you should get across wires back to dash....Im leaning towards ECM ng
 
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If anyone is interested in having their speedometer/odometer repaired, we have any excellent speedometer/instrument repair shop in Greensboro, NC. I've used them since the 1970s for everything from Studebakers, Volvos, Mercedes, and yes, my 1991 Ram 250 with Cummins engine. I can provide contact info for anyone requesting it. Good luck.
 


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