1st Generation Dodge Cummins 89-93 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with Rotary Injection Pumps

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Excessive case pressure being expelled after the throttle is lifted. With a VE you will get smoke, with a VP44 the truck often dies. The return side is too restricted, switched to an A1000 and bypass regulator, problem fixed.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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It's my understanding the factory/OEM fuel return orifice is sized to work in conjunction with the case pressure regulator.

Are we talking about the resulting case pressure spike as the regulator backs off with side-stepping the throttle after a high RPM run?

Bobby, your incoming fuel pressure is regulated isn't it?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
It's my understanding the factory/OEM fuel return orifice is sized to work in conjunction with the case pressure regulator.
But, we are not talking about a factory or OEM quantity of fuel.

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Are we talking about the resulting case pressure spike as the regulator backs off with side-stepping the throttle after a high RPM run?
Yes. If you were to remove the KSB completely, use an open return fitting with the bypass regulator on the return side to control pressure, this would not be the case.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Got'cha.

(Folks still need to keep up with the throttle index though).
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokem
Excessive case pressure being expelled after the throttle is lifted. With a VE you will get smoke, with a VP44 the truck often dies. The return side is too restricted, switched to an A1000 and bypass regulator, problem fixed.
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It's my understanding the factory/OEM fuel return orifice is sized to work in conjunction with the case pressure regulator. Are we talking about the resulting case pressure spike as the regulator backs off with side-stepping the throttle after a high RPM run? Bobby, your incoming fuel pressure is regulated isn't it?
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Yep, I have a aftermarket pump with a bypass reguator, 15psi. Never watched the gauge when letting off to see if it jumps though.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Is that the spike that can kill the shut off solenoid?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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I would think so Richie! Could be wrong though, I dont know the inside of these pumps like some of y'all.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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I don't even know the outside , let alone the inside of these pumps.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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I just keep playing with different parts and it has seemed to work somewhat good so far, I usually learn about it AFTER I mess it up and have to go back and fix what I did...
 
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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The only reason the vane pump is integrated into the VE or VP44 is for static timing alteration, lose the KSB and a lot of issues will follow suit.
 
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