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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Hey,What problems should I be aware of when swapping out a 91 360 gas engine and auto transmission for a 93 5.9 diesel and auto transmission.Both trucks are Dodge 1 tons with overdrive transmissions.Any major problems? Twistn.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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hhhmmmm..... Wiring. I think the gauge clusters are the same. Core support is different for the intercooler. Engine mounts. Should not be too hard as long as you have the ability to handle this project. Just put the trucks side by side and start swapping!

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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any type of computer stuff on the 93 doner truck that has to make it to the reciving truck?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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the TPS for the tranny. And yes there is a computer. Without it your Alt wont charge (vol reg wont work) and you intrement cluster wont work. Just take everything connected to teh engine/tranny
 

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Thanks, sounds like it is straight forward.Thanks again,Jerry
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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You can wire the alt with an external regulator. Its super easy and reliable. The 91 gasser should have the same grill as the 93 ctd, so getting the intercooler in there should be no problem. The wiring harness is different both in the engine bay and behind the dash. You also have a different message center in the gasser. There are some other differences that aren't critical. The gasser has a d60 in the rear instead of the d70. I'm not sure about the frame. I know my 90 350 gas truck has the smaller frame rails.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GO OVRIT
You can wire the alt with an external regulator. Its super easy and reliable. The 91 gasser should have the same grill as the 93 ctd, so getting the intercooler in there should be no problem. The wiring harness is different both in the engine bay and behind the dash. You also have a different message center in the gasser. There are some other differences that aren't critical. The gasser has a d60 in the rear instead of the d70. I'm not sure about the frame. I know my 90 350 gas truck has the smaller frame rails.
Listen to this man... He is very wise in the ways of the 1st gen. He is were I have learned most my stuff.

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Sounds like GO OVRIT knows what to do. I put a '97 460 out of an F350 into an '89 Bronco C350 - frustrating at times but with a little alcohol it becomes a fun task chasing wires and all
 
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GO OVRIT
I'm not sure about the frame. I know my 90 350 gas truck has the smaller frame rails.
Go.. Wasn't there a frame change some where in there.. I thought it was with the later 91.5+.. but can't remember... but I don't know if the frame change was just for the diesels.. or all 3/4 and up???
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