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Old 02-01-2011, 02:06 AM
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how would somebody do that?
 
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:52 PM
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Well, I talked to Peter at South Bend Clutch. He pointed out a very important thing:

Synchros are a wear item. If you put some aggressive friction material like ceramic or feramic on them, they're going to chew on the iron of the gears, and put shavings in your oil, plus the ceramic/feramic/ whatever will also end up in the oil too. Liquid sandpaper. Not good.

At his suggestion, I called bluementhal companies and talked to Monte there. Monte said to try putting two bottles of friction modifer (like they use in Limited slip differentials) in the oil and see. He claims he's seen it help. I've got an email out to amsoil on this to see what they have to say, since I'm running amsoil lube in the tranny.
 
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Old 02-02-2011, 02:03 AM
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im just gonna replace one snychro and upgrade the fifth gear nut and call it a day
 
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:51 PM
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Without a full splined main shaft you can still drop 5th gear. Don't try to shift a 4500 fast it will break.
 
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:02 PM
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what he^ said. i have mine rebuilt at least every 6 months. usually sooner. i shift fast and pull heavy. the third gear synchro is usually the first to go.
 
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Old 02-03-2011, 01:09 PM
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making sure the disc's slide very easy on the input shaft helps a lot, when you push your clutch in the plate pulls back, everything else must slide, if there is hesitation it will shift slow or not at all.
 
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:52 PM
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Hmm. Good thought... Mine slid good on the input when I put it in. The input and clutch discs were both new and both put in at the same time.
 
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 12valvetater
Without a full splined main shaft you can still drop 5th gear. Don't try to shift a 4500 fast it will break.
how come mine hasn't broke
 
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:14 PM
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yep my first nv4500 went to get on the highway and fast shift, it went boom
 
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Valair1
making sure the disc's slide very easy on the input shaft helps a lot, when you push your clutch in the plate pulls back, everything else must slide, if there is hesitation it will shift slow or not at all.
how about you explaining how you would see this actually happen! i would love to hear this! and i sure hope you dont work for valair, lemme just let you know how it really works instead of you guessing an missleading people, when you press on the clutch it pushes on the fingers of the pressure plate relieving the pressure off the disks! in no way does the disks move back on the input shaft. sncros slow the gears down for you to put it into gear
 
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