12 Valve 2nd Gen Dodge Cummins 94-98 Discussion of 12 Valve 5.9 Liter Dodge Cummins Diesels with P7100 Injection Pumps

Timing in inches?? Help lol

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Old May 13, 2015 | 08:42 PM
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I agree with you the power band moves but it seems like mine stayed the same. And the pump didn't seem to get louder. Maybe it is set at 20* but I sure expected to notice a difference. The get does seem a Lil cooler but not much maybe 50*.
 
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Old May 14, 2015 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JBearSVT
You gained power from nothing more than bumping timing? I'd like to see that.
Yes I have along with many others have made pretty good gains with timing changes. While I do not have dyno proof I do have extra footage and extra rpm turned at the end of a pull to prove extra power has been made.

Originally Posted by Stox5225
Patch - Yeah based on some research here on the interwebs, my "symptoms" match those of retarded timing. Starts quicker, higher EGT's, crap for power, and white smoke. Thanks man!!
Yes those are the symptoms of retarded timing going the other way should fix the issue. For advanced timing more plunger lift at TDC for retarded timing less plunger lift at TDC.
 
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Old May 14, 2015 | 05:17 PM
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I will concede that pump timing can help facilitate making more power, but only to the extent that there are other mods which work better with bumped timing than without; and that the same timing on an otherwise stock truck would gain you nothing on the dyno, at least no more than you'd gain by driving from one dyno to another on the same day.
Originally Posted by patch164
I agree with you the power band moves but it seems like mine stayed the same. And the pump didn't seem to get louder. Maybe it is set at 20* but I sure expected to notice a difference. The get does seem a Lil cooler but not much maybe 50*.
20° may not be enough to really hear it if you aren't listening for it, but it does start to knock with much over 19°. When you'll notice it is when there's a load on it that it can't do anything with, like stopped at a light in drive. Quite a few of my friends are running 25-30°, and those things sound like a rod is about to punch through when they're lugging.
 
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