96 auto trans lack of power 49-60 mph
#11
09-25-2012, 02:01 PM
#12
09-25-2012, 02:16 PM
I've posted it on another thread... but i'll copy it and paste it here:
The Cummins factory in Columbus Indiana, send Dodge up to 700 6BT engines per DAY.
A whole bunch of Engineers mock the fact that Dodge are installing this engine in a pickup truck as it was designed for a duty cycle of 60-80% and could go for a 100% duty cycle for more than 1 hour with ease. This engine in a pickup truck doing normal load in highway / city usage will not even reach a load factor of 20%. In the past, Dodge used to compare internals of the Cummins vs NaviStar, Detroit 6.5 and the Duramax 6.6 as they have much smaller internals. This was even used as a marketing trick in Iceland.
Cummins engines will without a doubt outlive their trucks in every normal situation, my Cummins has got it's beatings and it still runs strong although now it has a faulty water pump...
My truck is listed in my signature (you probably have to look at my first post in this thread) and the chassis is screwed, wich is why i'm swapping into a 1500 Gasser...
That way i get a lot of cool features, like a lighter truck and short bed... but i will never EVER cope with my truck being a 5.9 gasser... so it get's a Cummins transplant...
I love my Cummins !!!
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Not sure if that's right... BUT...
I do see a big difference in using the BLUE fuel here (OFF-ROAD, EQUIPMENT FUEL) or even the RED fuel (NAVAL, SHIPS AND SEA)... both in means of power and consumption...
The ON-ROAD non dyed oil will give me the best consumption, the BLUE is similar but will consume more and EGTs will be higher...
But this RED stuff we're supposed to use on the boats is "Radioactive" to say the least !!!
A whole bunch of Engineers mock the fact that Dodge are installing this engine in a pickup truck as it was designed for a duty cycle of 60-80% and could go for a 100% duty cycle for more than 1 hour with ease. This engine in a pickup truck doing normal load in highway / city usage will not even reach a load factor of 20%. In the past, Dodge used to compare internals of the Cummins vs NaviStar, Detroit 6.5 and the Duramax 6.6 as they have much smaller internals. This was even used as a marketing trick in Iceland.
Cummins engines will without a doubt outlive their trucks in every normal situation, my Cummins has got it's beatings and it still runs strong although now it has a faulty water pump...
My truck is listed in my signature (you probably have to look at my first post in this thread) and the chassis is screwed, wich is why i'm swapping into a 1500 Gasser...
That way i get a lot of cool features, like a lighter truck and short bed... but i will never EVER cope with my truck being a 5.9 gasser... so it get's a Cummins transplant...
I love my Cummins !!!
---AutoMerged DoublePost---
Not sure if that's right... BUT...
I do see a big difference in using the BLUE fuel here (OFF-ROAD, EQUIPMENT FUEL) or even the RED fuel (NAVAL, SHIPS AND SEA)... both in means of power and consumption...
The ON-ROAD non dyed oil will give me the best consumption, the BLUE is similar but will consume more and EGTs will be higher...
But this RED stuff we're supposed to use on the boats is "Radioactive" to say the least !!!
#13
09-25-2012, 03:07 PM
And then Dodge took this amazing powerplant and mated it with a Chrysler automatic so fragile that they had to starve it for fuel to keep it from grenading. All of which still leaves me wondering, is it gutless after the torque converter locks because it just needs more fuel, or is there something else too?
#14
09-25-2012, 07:37 PM
#15
09-25-2012, 08:54 PM
#16
09-26-2012, 01:41 PM
I have not taken it back out yet but seemed to get to 2500 to 2600 rpm then almost seemed as if it went into nuetral I let off the gas in panic for a second then got back on it and it went again but then just put it in OD .. wonder if it was cause I was on the flat accelerating pretty good and that is where it cuts fuel out or something?
I'll try it again next time I drive it..
thanks for all your help[
I'll try it again next time I drive it..
thanks for all your help[
#17
09-26-2012, 02:36 PM
yes, that's most likely the governor kicking in, it's like someone is leveling out your throttle ?
it's not like you're hitting a brick wall or something ?
it being gutless after locking up is more of a gearing issue than a fueling issue, the rpms drop below the turbo effective range and it will not build sufficient boost, this might be fixed with letting a little bit off the starwheel to get the turbo to light sooner...
it's not like you're hitting a brick wall or something ?
And then Dodge took this amazing powerplant and mated it with a Chrysler automatic so fragile that they had to starve it for fuel to keep it from grenading. All of which still leaves me wondering, is it gutless after the torque converter locks because it just needs more fuel, or is there something else too?
Last edited by angelic0-; 09-26-2012 at 02:39 PM.
#18
09-26-2012, 04:12 PM
Here's the thing: I can make more than 10psi of boost at 1500rpm, just not in OD. Which is to say, not over 55mph or so. If I'm in first or second at 1500rpm and stab the throttle I have 15psi before the tach needle even moves and 20psi just another second away. Once it's in OD though, that's it. Mash the throttle and it just sits there. I believe when the rear was rebuilt last year they told me it had 3.73's, which I hadn't heard of in these trucks, it seems like most of them are either 3.55's or 4.something's. I'm certainly open to trying anything though, especially if it's free. I haven't messed with fueling at all, either in the pump or the AFC. Which direction should I crank it?
#19
09-26-2012, 08:17 PM
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#20
09-26-2012, 08:21 PM
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