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Old 08-25-2011, 10:55 AM
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has anyone ever heard of this or used this? it guess it has a defueling option and comes with equal power levels as the PPE hot +2. any information on this will be appreciated

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i hear it also has the option to change your shift points unlike the PPE

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if anyone knows anything about this please let me know
 

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Old 08-25-2011, 07:18 PM
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IMHO go with the PPE, the ATS is just rebadged and probably over priced

that or step up to EFI live
 
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i would love DSP5 trust me! but i am in fargo ND and i dont really have anyone around here that i would trust to do it and it! I am also only 19 and am going to college so i need my truck daily. i figured the ppe standard would be a good step as long as i only use the 225hp setting for a couple pulls, and hopefully im the lucky one that doesnt have my tranny go into limp mode. I would only daily drive onn the 90hp setting. i did just order MBRP's 5" strait pipe exhaust(not that its needed but just because im young and bigger is better )

i do have some questions for you though if you dont mind. will the 5" exhaust effect my low end torque? and will it throw a code because i hear only some get codes for strait piped LBZ's. Also is the ppe standard a good choice for the LBZ?
 
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:32 PM
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Anything PPE is a good choice for a plug and play tuner and if you have the tuner you shouldnt have any codes from the exhaust being bigger, as for loss of torque with a 5" system, its been debated but if you do lose torque the tuner can more than make up for any loss, besides when you have 800ft/lbs of torque you arent going to notice that much of a loss

EFI Live isn't really that bad, and you would probably find it pretty easy to tinker with, im 26 and it took me a little while but I got it pretty well figured out, and there is LOTS of help all over the internet, and you can also buy tunes as well as pre-tuned ECM's with DSP5 already tuned in, all you need to do is install the switch(takes about an hour if you have no clue what you're doing)

Check out Duramaxtuner.com or PM one of the vendors to see if they can hook you up

I live in Canada and shops that tune EFI live are few and far between up here, and I have EFI live in my rig and I love it

This is a video I made of my rig with a 475rwhp tune, just the tune and a straight pipe exhaust, thats all I have done to it
 
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Old 08-26-2011, 09:45 AM
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yeah i do have a few guys that can get me EFI live here there is no local dealer of it just a buddy doing it out of his shop. He did it to his 06 LBZ and i guess it rips, but of course its a LBZ. So i could probably copy his tune if i wanted, and from what he has told me i can literally get dsp 5 for dirt cheap through him! He also has done a few of my friends trucks (2004 2500hd with 250k+, not sure if its lly or lb7)

1.have you ran the ppe standard?.

2.what should i expect for rwhp counting the loose of drive train power on top setting (475-500whp????)

3.will the ppe standard raise my shifts at all? because i want to rev a little higher then 3,400.

4.will the 225hp setting harm the truck or put it into limp mode even if i do just a couple pulls? (daily drive on prob 90hp setting)

5. can i expect the ppe standard to throw some smoke? i hear on some it does and some it doesnt
 

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Old 08-26-2011, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Duramax07
yeah i do have a few guys that can get me EFI live here there is no local dealer of it just a buddy doing it out of his shop. He did it to his 06 LBZ and i guess it rips, but of course its a LBZ. So i could probably copy his tune if i wanted, and from what he has told me i can literally get dsp 5 for dirt cheap through him! He also has done a few of my friends trucks (2004 2500hd with 250k+, not sure if its lly or lb7)

1.have you ran the ppe standard?.
No I haven't
2.what should i expect for rwhp counting the loose of drive train power on top setting (475-500whp????)
You actually probably wont be able to utilize all the power from the highest level because you wont have enough fuel from the CP3
3.will the ppe standard raise my shifts at all? because i want to rev a little higher then 3,400.
I dont know about the shifts at all, but making the rpms increase past 3400 has nothing to do with shift points, the ECM only commands fuel to 3200 then trails off drastically, Im not sure why you want to spin the engine past the stock point anyways
4.will the 225hp setting harm the truck or put it into limp mode even if i do just a couple pulls? (daily drive on prob 90hp setting)
Yes the 225hp setting will hurt the trans, anything above 100hp and the stock allison wont be happy
5. can i expect the ppe standard to throw some smoke? i hear on some it does and some it doesnt
Most people are going to rip you on this one, the idea is not to pour smoke anymore, its to make clean power, if you have a little smoke its ok, infact the 475rwhp tune I have from duramaxtuner.com throws very little smoke for that much power

here is a video of the 475rwhp tune smoke

 
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:20 PM
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i do understand the no smoke deal, because smoke equals burnt access fuel. and i understand ppe isnt about dumping raw fuel into your truck, they make tunes that used the amount of fuel that is needed.

So any thing over 100rwhp.... will harm the tranny?

Does that mean the 225hp setting which may put out 158whp do to 30% drive train loss will harm the allison greatly? or slowely harm it over time just like daily driving would, and as i have said before i would only have it on 225hp for 1 maybe 2 pulls(without reaching 5th or 6th because i hear thats when limp mode comes in).

thanks you for your help i greatly appreciate it
 
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:27 AM
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the 6-speed allison is more resilient than the 5-speed allison, and you may be able to run the 225hp setting for a short time and do no real damage, I ran that 475rwhp tune(175hp over stock) for a few runs and I didn't limp my trans, but that does not mean that you should do it much or for long

I currently have a 415/375/360/335/modified stock tune in my DSP5 and i run the 415 on occasion but keep it on the 375 most of the time because it feels happier there, and it still pulls like a raped ape up to 70, the 360 and 335 tunes also have built in turbine breaking which works exceptionally well to save your brakes

the general rule is to keep the tunes lower on a stock trans to help keep it happier for longer, if you beat on it dont be a sore loser when it breaks, gota pay to play

Any more questions dont hesitate to ask, hopefully I have answered things for you fairly clearly
 
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:51 AM
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trust me i am rediculiously nice to my trucks. Some would say i am way to nice and keep it way to clean, and i occasionaly get on it seldomly. i would barely drive in 225hp setting maybe 5 miles. and daily in the 90hp setting as i said before. just curious do you have the lly in your 06? because the final number you come up with 175 hp on top of it sounds like lly numbers

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i understand it pays to play i have 127k on this tranny, hopping it lasts, cant afford issues right now haha
 

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