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How would taking just the top of the air box cover off, would that do anything or help anything intill you got a cold air intake?... JOIN NOW TO REMOVE TRACER

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Old 05-15-2009, 02:36 PM
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How would taking just the top of the air box cover off, would that do anything or help anything intill you got a cold air intake?

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Old 05-15-2009, 04:20 PM
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Do a BHAF (Big Honkin Air Filter) and Old Smokey mount...

The Part number's for the BHAF's are
John Deere PMAH19037
Carquest 87790
Hastings AF1012
Donaldson B105006
Baldwin PA2820
Wix 42790
Napa 2790
Fleetguard AH19037


I'll get a pic of the mount up as soon as photobucket starts working again!

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Old 05-15-2009, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad93Cummins View Post
How would taking just the top of the air box cover off, would that do anything or help anything intill you got a cold air intake?
i took the round cover off my 93, and just left the flat vertical mounting plate with the filter bolted to it.......picked up about 12-15 mph on cold nights and noticed the truck had alot more get up and go.......it sucks cold clean air from around the head light.....

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Old 05-15-2009, 10:50 PM
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Ya that's what I was thinking just take the cover off and run it like that till I get the ASA cold air.

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Old 05-16-2009, 10:35 AM
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Here is teh templete for teh Old Smokey mount, make it out of some heavy Sheet metal


And here it is all bent up with the filter in place



And here is what it looks like in the truck (this one is made out of Diamond PLate
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:15 AM
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excellent post, I'm finally going to do something about my OEM filter. here I come, Napa!

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Old 07-20-2009, 07:04 PM
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I love my BHAF, dont have teh mount made yet. Never can find the time.
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:28 PM
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I picked the filter up today and I'm contemplating making the bracket/shroud for it right now, I'm really tempted at 5:30 in 105 degree heat to just throw the filter on and go home to the air conditioning!!
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Old 07-23-2009, 12:45 PM
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I had the mount on mine but had a serious problem with the hose working its way off the filter and sucking in unfiltered air. Rather than destroy my engine I took the mount off and the hose stays connected now

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Old 07-23-2009, 02:33 PM
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I'm using my OEM hose and found the that the lip on the filter is tapered just a bit and is slightly too small. so I did what any professional technician would do and wrapped the lip of the filter with electrical tape.

I guess I could get a piece of tubing that fit into the ID of the filter opening(what it looks like it was designed for) and weld that to another piece of tubing that properly fit inside the OEM turbo hose but...the clamp over e-tape worked pretty good...unless it comes loose and sucks the tape into the compressor...
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:57 PM
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grease im with you on that one electrical tape does the job...my bhaf mount is the stock airbox trimmed up, left maybe the bottom 1/3 of the filter box so i can use the bolt that goes to the fender well to hold it there and trimmed the front and back off so it kinda cradles the filter...works perfect

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Originally Posted by greasemonkey View Post
I'm using my OEM hose and found the that the lip on the filter is tapered just a bit and is slightly too small. so I did what any professional technician would do and wrapped the lip of the filter with electrical tape.

I guess I could get a piece of tubing that fit into the ID of the filter opening(what it looks like it was designed for) and weld that to another piece of tubing that properly fit inside the OEM turbo hose but...the clamp over e-tape worked pretty good...unless it comes loose and sucks the tape into the compressor...

If you get a hose clamp instead of the factory clamp it will work. The factory clamp is just a hair to big! Tape works too though...
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:47 AM
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i posted wong earlier i meant to say i did this on my 90 model, my 93 model dosent have the big long stud that sticks through the centers like my 90 model, so i couldnt do this mod at home until i find a stud style filter mount.....
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Old 07-24-2009, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RSWORDS View Post
If you get a hose clamp instead of the factory clamp it will work. The factory clamp is just a hair to big! Tape works too though...
I had to zip tie the filter to the fender, also; even the taped and clamped rattled loose, caught it right away though so no crap ran through the compressor.
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:48 AM
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hah, any of your guys have family from WV? i moved here like 4 er 5 years ago and west virginians have an odd mechanical ability to use next to nothing to make something work... even if it is for 5 mins to run it up the road... i've seen duct tape used on the exhaust to hold it and seal it....

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