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Old 09-08-2009, 02:03 PM
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im looking for a vp and i want one that if i want to get really into the sport i wont need to buy a better one please help.
 
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:25 PM
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As said in your other thread, I made 839 on a SO pump.
 
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:05 AM
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Enough said get a SO
 
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:13 PM
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why dont yall like the high performance ones r they that unreliable
 
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:15 PM
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We've told you over and over again that they are worthless. They have no benifit besides putting more money in someones pocket. I'm having a hard time understanding why your so set on a "high performance" Vp-44 ? We've said multiple times there's better options and you can save yourself some cash? This attitude of more expensive and bigger is better is dangerous. It leads to an empty wallet and less that expected performance. Can you explain to us why your so set on a high performance vp-44?

What is it thats got you so infatuated with these pumps?

Let's settle some things right now:

1: Just because someone says it's the best dosent mean they know what their talking about.
2: High performance pumps often come with less warranty and more problems.
3: The gain in power is little to none over that available with other options
4: The way this pump gains power will show little to no improvement with your truck at this point.
5: HRVP44 and Monster pumps have shown to be MUCH less relaible
6: More fuel isnt always better
7: You have no modifications to your truck to warrant a hot rod or monster pump!
8: you will probably be more than happy with the SO pump considering it's the ONLY pump capable for street use , and has the ability to exceed 600RWHP.

Are you looking for more than 600 to the tires fuel only?
Are you looking for more than 800 on spray?
Do you want your truck to be reliable, Not breaking every week , spending thousands on pumps trying to get the right one?
Are you willing to give up a good warranty on a pump for 80 RWHP?
Are you going to invest the money required to install , Studs , Rings, Push Rods, Valve Springs, Turbo , Exhaust Manifold, Gauges, Lift Pump , Clutch or trans. , Water methanol or nitrous ? If you answered no to any of the questions above a monster pump isnt for you!
 
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:08 PM
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We've told you over and over again that they are worthless. They have no benifit besides putting more money in someones pocket. I'm having a hard time understanding why your so set on a "high performance" Vp-44 ? We've said multiple times there's better options and you can save yourself some cash? This attitude of more expensive and bigger is better is dangerous. It leads to an empty wallet and less that expected performance. Can you explain to us why your so set on a high performance vp-44?

What is it thats got you so infatuated with these pumps?

Let's settle some things right now:

1: Just because someone says it's the best dosent mean they know what their talking about.
2: High performance pumps often come with less warranty and more problems.
3: The gain in power is little to none over that available with other options
4: The way this pump gains power will show little to no improvement with your truck at this point.
5: HRVP44 and Monster pumps have shown to be MUCH less relaible
6: More fuel isnt always better
7: You have no modifications to your truck to warrant a hot rod or monster pump!
8: you will probably be more than happy with the SO pump considering it's the ONLY pump capable for street use , and has the ability to exceed 600RWHP.

Are you looking for more than 600 to the tires fuel only?
Are you looking for more than 800 on spray?
Do you want your truck to be reliable, Not breaking every week , spending thousands on pumps trying to get the right one?
Are you willing to give up a good warranty on a pump for 80 RWHP?
Are you going to invest the money required to install , Studs , Rings, Push Rods, Valve Springs, Turbo , Exhaust Manifold, Gauges, Lift Pump , Clutch or trans. , Water methanol or nitrous ? If you answered no to any of the questions above a monster pump isnt for you!


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plus you have an so pump just like my truck is the pump blown or are you just wanting to make more power
 

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Old 09-09-2009, 05:11 PM
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but that is what im doing to it i what to make it a race truck. i have a quadzilla adrenaline and i now i screwed up by geting that befor i got something to help my vp. i do have plans of hitting 600 hp and maby one day more. that is why im trying to figure stuff out so i dont have to get it later. but thanks for looking out, money is very tight.

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anyone got a used SO vp 44 for sale
 

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so yours is blown if your good with rebuilding it you can get the kit for around $50
 
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ok ill try that if its that cheap thanks that would save me alot
 
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:22 PM
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Okay, Let's go this route, A set of eaither smokem's injectors , or DDP injectors in the 200 or 250 range, Hole #'s and hole size needs to be determined after your final box choice (edge drag comp or quadzilla or so on) belive it or not, the fueling charactristics are very important in the injector choice when looking for big numbers . For a good set of injectors your looking at around $1,000 bucks retail on the "big name sets". That does not mean that the less price items are worse but when trying to build big power you need an injector man that knows his stuff...AND REALLY KNOWS IT, Only three I've trusted so far would be Don Morrison (F1 Diesel) , The guys up at DDP , And from what I hear smokem is really good!

Turbo choices would probably be somthing like a 66, (66MM compressor wheel and 71MM turbine wheel with eaither a 14 or 16 CM exhaust housing. The 16 will create slower spool but better handling of exhaust gases and egts with big fuel (to explain it simply). Another Option would be a "competition" style charger with a 73MM turbine wheel 71MM compressor wheel. High tech offers a stainless housing for that style charger thats available in 13 or 16CM.)
Also available are some garrett and turbonetics chargers that are being used more and more, some of which offer a ball bearing cartridge setup allowing for faster spool and less restriction.

A 66 non competition charger (smaller wheels) is capable of handling 600+ RWHP , I would stay away from the 65MM wheels available on some cheaper chargers due to drive pressure concerns. We'd like to see optimal power at or slightly over 1:1 drive pressure ratios, in a perfect world atleast

Twins are also a great option which allow for better control of EGT's and Drive pressures while improving spool up dramaticly. Now if your looking for more with the SO pump some nitrous and bigger injectors will make the most power on a single charger setup. Nitrous is much more useful in single charger applications with the VP trucks due to the lack of massive amounts of fuel!
You'll also want a good quality aftermarket exhaust manifold...did i mention gauges?
If you need help getting setup let me know! I've already done 4 VP trucks right at 600RWHP.

Also To keep egt's in check (not under control, just to help all it can) you might think about a water methanol kit.

A proven combination for 600 is Mach 6's or 7's,Edge Drag comp,Somthing in the 66 range of chargers, SO pump (fresh pump) , a good fuel delivery system, Head studs, O-rings, Upgraded pushrods of your choice and a good set of valve springs...There's plenty of options.

But thats not everything, What type of transmission are you running? Auto or manual?
Transmission upgrades are the first of the options that need to be looked at IF your running an automatic. Gauges of some form.
 


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