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Old 09-27-2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Byrdseye
Michelin and Continental make 20" super singles..........usually used on military rigs and they may be a little too off road oriented.

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Actually those wern't designed to replace a set of duals, those vehicles were built with single tires.

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Originally Posted by 1stGen93
My dad switched to them on his semi and trailer several years ago. He could tell the difference in rolling resistance, and picked up a little over a 1/2mpg. He loves them
He will love them a lot less when he has a flat on the road
 

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I saw the thread "Super Singles" & I thought it was a dating service
 
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:13 AM
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Default Retro to "Super Singles" from "Dually"

Goin' "Oil Burner" more everyday now, and this is My first-post on this forum, thank you very much!

The topic of "Super Single" is also something I've been considering for quite awhile now -- 'specially since the first time I saw 'em on one of those back-wards lookin' Concrete Trucks -- with My 1-ton "Dually", and for a 'coupla reasons more than just "Looks":

#1 is 'cause I like the look...not being much the "Low Rider" for my penchant to jump-curbs occasionally, the only "Profile" better than "Tall" is "Tall 'n Fat", and as such, front and rear wheel symetry is simply more the pleasure to My eye than the bass-akwards bow-legged bull-dog look of front "Singles" 'n rear "Duallys"...that is, on a 1-ton "Light Duty" Pickup Truck anyway.

What I'd REALLY like to find is a wheel of which the "Offset" has been properly calculated to then allow removal of the Front Axle Hub-Extentions AND keep My "Dually" Rear axle differential in-place ~ thus with some minor fender mods perhaps at-most ~ allowing me to switch back should I choose.

There are some other "Medum Duty" vehicles -- such as My '49 C-27 Brill Bus Conversion -- that I think they'd look pretty cool on too, but I'd need to find 'em a LOT smaller that what I've seen on those Concrete Trucks, and too, those REALLY "Heavy Duty" Concrete Pumper Trucks...besides "Tankers" those are about the only ones I've seen 'em on, and they're 24.5" HUGE : ?

(I've been lookin' to find some "Alcoa" style "International 6-Lug Bud" bolt-pattern ALUMINUM Wheels @ either 19.5" or 22.5" ("Tubeless" @ 40" MAX O.D. assembled/inflated) in either "Dually" or "Super Single" for My "Bus Project" for over 15 years now!)

#2 I asked the Concrete Truckin' guys what they thought of 'em and it was over-all POSITIVE: They say they had to get used to the steering, and too, that they are more than just a little nervous about gettin' a flat because they're often off-road into Construction Sites -- with sharp rocks, NAILS, 'n other "Stuff" ~ including axle-deep mud that USED to foul their Duallys too -- sayin' they prefer the Super Singles for being more effectively "Self Cleaning" that mud that used to get stuck between the Dually Wheels...that is a solution to a very real problem I've experienced with My "Dually" too!

#3 Finally, loosing that 6" to 8" on BOTH sides THEN allows me to put My truck that much closer to a Tree, Wall, etc., when I need to "Jack" a car/boat trailer into an otherwise too-tight space.

I've asked a few of the Tire 'n Wheel Manufactureres about "Super Single" availability -- including the ones that brag They can fabricate "Whatever (Wheel) You can DREAM" -- to find what I'm talking about is non-existant, and otherwise -- for trucks designed or modified as "Single" -- it remains quite limited...and quite frankly, I still don't understand that.

I'm seeing more of that "Super Single" look amongst all the OTHER "Light Duty" trucks -- such as those running on "Gas" that are 2500's and 1500's otherwise -- so I'm not the only one thinking they look pretty cool...

So who ELSE thinks a "Super Single 1-Ton" would both function AND look way-cooler than any of THEM : ?
 
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Originally Posted by codyawise
Does anyone recommend super singles over dual wheels? i have a 99 dodge 3500 drw and i do a good bit of farm work and regular on road towin. any advantages of puttin super singles on other than traction and do super singles last just as long if not longer than dual wheels
I've never seen any single tire to replace nominal size dual wheels for a one ton without going to 17.5 size. Any 19.5 or 22.5 will have a pretty good jump in diameter.

Originally Posted by Dirty Offio
tiremann,

Sorry, I don't buy that. Outfit I worked for, we had identical trucks fitted both ways. Mileage was basically even. I ran one of the duallie trucks for a week while mine was in the shop, did not see any difference in the mileage...if there was any, it was less than 1/2 MPG. (Running 11 western states.)
1/2 mpg in a trucking operation today is huge. Many fleets spec for gains of less than 1/10 mpg. When you run into the millions of miles per year, that's a lot of fuel. Do the math figuring fuel at around $4 per gallon.

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They suck if you have a flat because you can't limp anywhere, and if you think about big companies that log thousands of miles in a month a half a mpg adds up quick.
Well said. Fleets would change every spec they have if they think they could gain that much mileage. Fuel in most operations is the largest single expense.
 
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:15 AM
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Default Straight-swap from "Dually" to "Super Single" on my '99.5 SuperDuty?

What I'd REALLY like to find is a wheel/Tire assembly of which BOTH the Wheel-Rim "Offset" and Tire Profile/Aspect Ratio (Width~Height) has been properly construed to then allow the simple removal of the Front Axle Hub-Extentions and keep My OEM "Dually" Rear axle differential in-place...to then NOT have to make any fender mods while enabling me to simply switch back'n forth from "Single" to "Dually" whenever I choose.

Surely there's SOMETHING that can be made by a good wheel/tire manufacturer that wouldn't look too anemic within the Duallys rear-fender wells OR be too tall 'n wide for the front-end at stock ride-heights...

I'm keeping My Dually for those times having one is needed, otherwise, I'm NOT pulling big 'n heavy trailers enough of the time to warrant "Duallys" full-time...being able to run "Single" and "Easy" (still talkin' trucks here... ; ) would allow me to appreciate the advantages of both:

A. (Arguably) Improved looks, fuel economy, and vehicle manuverability with (somewhat : ? ) "Super Singles".
B. Plenty of traction to prevent jack-knifing otherwise with three "Spares" available as a Long-Haul "Dually".
 
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