Another Long Term Treadwright Test
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Another Long Term Treadwright Test
Hey guys, so my tires finally needed changing. With little money, and three vehicles needing tires I ordered some treadwrights. I will be giving you a long term review on three different vehicles all with treadwrights. I want to give you guys my reviews and experience with these tires as they wear. I noticed there is another thread, different tire however, as mine will be used off road significantly.
The first set I ordered were for my 2002 cummins.
I ordered 4 315/75/16 Guard Dog D ( MT ).
They arrived on TOYO AT casings, with near perfect sidewalls.
They were backordered 6 weeks, but well worth it.
$696 Shipped to my door.
The second set I ordered were for a 1999 2500 Suburban.
I ordered 4 265/75/16 Wardern E (AT)
They arrived on BFG AT TA KO Sidewalls ( as requested ).
$510 Shipped to my door.
The third set I ordered are for a friends 1997 Nissan D21
I ordered 4 265/75/16 Guard Dog E (MT )
$520 Shipped to my door.
I paid pep boys $100 to have them all mounted and balanced.
Treadwright specifically asks for static balancing, however I chose dynamic balancing for my cummins, the rest are static. I will probably switch to static at some point.
Here are the pictures I have of all three before mounting.
Here they are on my cummins.
Here they are on my suburban.
Here they are on my friends nissan.
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I will follow up with how they have been.
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Since install one week ago on my 2002 cummins, I have put 1000 miles on the guard dogs already.
Day 1) Took the truck camping, 100 miles each way. Cruised at 70 MPH, no weird vibrations, a definant humm ( very faint ), very stable. Took 17 miles of back country rutted dirt road to get to our camp site, tires threw plenty of pebbles, but had much more traction than my previous super swampers on gravel. Upon reaching the campsite, we reached deep snow (30" x 45 feet long patch ), then dry, then patches again, we camped after the first one. After making it thew the patch, we were informed by the only other campers we were one of the few who didnt get stuck ( go figure ). So we setup camp and what do ya know, a 4x4 tacoma gets stuck. We pull him out and continue about our day. Some guy comes walking down the road, he was stuck further up the road, requiring going threw longer patches of snow, deeper, uphill, we decided to help and with some throttle made it to him. He was high centered all four spinning ( 4x4 duramax ). We pulled him out with some oomph and then pulled him out again when he couldnt make it through the next patch. After this we pulled out a ford raptor who also couldnt make it through, I should also mention my buddys nissan with the same tires, had no problem. We pulled out vans and other misc suvs all day, and were the only ones to make it through the large snow covered bridge first try, multiple times.
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Day 2) On the way back from camping, one of the bolts Firestone installed on my friends upper control arm was too short, and fell out. He was stuck stranded 40 miles from home. I ran home, grabbed my 4000 lb enclosed trailer went back, got him and towed him to firestone, not a single problem tires even D rated didnt balloon, rode great.
Day 3) Went mild rock crawling / off roading with my cummins, not a single time, braking or accelerating did I lose traction, significantly better than my BFG AT, and Truxus MT. Tires didnt flake, peel, crack, chunk or anything.
Day 4) Terrential downpour, even with a locked rear differential, I couldnt break them loose without a significant ammount of effort. With the BFGs, they would spin on any road paint and with the Truxus MT, I could spin them without the breaks through fourth gear, or step on it in fourth and break em loose. Amazing.
Day 5) Hauled 10,000 lbs of bricks for a friends brother in law, on a 3200 tilt deck hitch style trailer. Tires didnt squat truck handled the load beautifully, made it all they way. So far I am AMAZED with these tires.
The first set I ordered were for my 2002 cummins.
I ordered 4 315/75/16 Guard Dog D ( MT ).
They arrived on TOYO AT casings, with near perfect sidewalls.
They were backordered 6 weeks, but well worth it.
$696 Shipped to my door.
The second set I ordered were for a 1999 2500 Suburban.
I ordered 4 265/75/16 Wardern E (AT)
They arrived on BFG AT TA KO Sidewalls ( as requested ).
$510 Shipped to my door.
The third set I ordered are for a friends 1997 Nissan D21
I ordered 4 265/75/16 Guard Dog E (MT )
$520 Shipped to my door.
I paid pep boys $100 to have them all mounted and balanced.
Treadwright specifically asks for static balancing, however I chose dynamic balancing for my cummins, the rest are static. I will probably switch to static at some point.
Here are the pictures I have of all three before mounting.
Here they are on my cummins.
Here they are on my suburban.
Here they are on my friends nissan.
.
I will follow up with how they have been.
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Since install one week ago on my 2002 cummins, I have put 1000 miles on the guard dogs already.
Day 1) Took the truck camping, 100 miles each way. Cruised at 70 MPH, no weird vibrations, a definant humm ( very faint ), very stable. Took 17 miles of back country rutted dirt road to get to our camp site, tires threw plenty of pebbles, but had much more traction than my previous super swampers on gravel. Upon reaching the campsite, we reached deep snow (30" x 45 feet long patch ), then dry, then patches again, we camped after the first one. After making it thew the patch, we were informed by the only other campers we were one of the few who didnt get stuck ( go figure ). So we setup camp and what do ya know, a 4x4 tacoma gets stuck. We pull him out and continue about our day. Some guy comes walking down the road, he was stuck further up the road, requiring going threw longer patches of snow, deeper, uphill, we decided to help and with some throttle made it to him. He was high centered all four spinning ( 4x4 duramax ). We pulled him out with some oomph and then pulled him out again when he couldnt make it through the next patch. After this we pulled out a ford raptor who also couldnt make it through, I should also mention my buddys nissan with the same tires, had no problem. We pulled out vans and other misc suvs all day, and were the only ones to make it through the large snow covered bridge first try, multiple times.
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Day 2) On the way back from camping, one of the bolts Firestone installed on my friends upper control arm was too short, and fell out. He was stuck stranded 40 miles from home. I ran home, grabbed my 4000 lb enclosed trailer went back, got him and towed him to firestone, not a single problem tires even D rated didnt balloon, rode great.
Day 3) Went mild rock crawling / off roading with my cummins, not a single time, braking or accelerating did I lose traction, significantly better than my BFG AT, and Truxus MT. Tires didnt flake, peel, crack, chunk or anything.
Day 4) Terrential downpour, even with a locked rear differential, I couldnt break them loose without a significant ammount of effort. With the BFGs, they would spin on any road paint and with the Truxus MT, I could spin them without the breaks through fourth gear, or step on it in fourth and break em loose. Amazing.
Day 5) Hauled 10,000 lbs of bricks for a friends brother in law, on a 3200 tilt deck hitch style trailer. Tires didnt squat truck handled the load beautifully, made it all they way. So far I am AMAZED with these tires.
Last edited by Justin324; 05-31-2012 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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jeeper (07-22-2013)
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It seems odd to me that they would specify static rather than dynamic balance. A tire that is dynamically balanced will be in balance on a static setting too, a static balance may leave the tire out of balance dynamically, which can lead to steering wheel shimmy and premature treadwear. I think I'd stick with the dynamic balance, but they're your tires. Keep us updated
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It seems odd to me that they would specify static rather than dynamic balance. A tire that is dynamically balanced will be in balance on a static setting too, a static balance may leave the tire out of balance dynamically, which can lead to steering wheel shimmy and premature treadwear. I think I'd stick with the dynamic balance, but they're your tires. Keep us updated
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I had a set back in 2005 when they were high-tec-retreading. Balanced well, worked great. I did have a chunk of tread come off of one. Sent a picture in and they overnighted me a tire free of charge. Lasted two years and about 25, 000 miles. Thats with several trips to Uwharrie Nat'l Forest for some trail riding in my duramax. As good as any other mud terrain.
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Anyone that's "amazed" with a set of tires after a few weeks and a few thousand miles obviously has no experience evaluating tires. I don't usually form opinions about tires until after a few years and a few tens of thousands of miles.
And once again, puddlestopper confirms one of the fundamental truths that's been said about them all along: They tend to come apart. I imagine the good customer report(s) comes from lots of practice shipping out replacements.
And once again, puddlestopper confirms one of the fundamental truths that's been said about them all along: They tend to come apart. I imagine the good customer report(s) comes from lots of practice shipping out replacements.
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baddodges (07-24-2013)